• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You’re missing the fact, again, that Nazis never keep their word. Negotiating with them fails every time.

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      3 days ago

      Exactly who is negotiating with nazis? Where? When? How?

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          3 days ago

          After calling the entire current american cabinet fascist a few times in previous replies, doing that would be, at the least, intelectually dishonest.

          That part is already well defined.

          What I want to know, from you, is who is negotiating with them.

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            3 days ago

            Petro saying military planes can’t deport citizens to Colombia but nonmilitary planes can in order to get the tariff threat removed is a negotiation.

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              That’s funny.

              I remember reading the push was over the US deporting colombians, on military plains, handcuffed, as if they were prisoners of war.

              El Chato threats - and announces - tariffs in retaliation of Colombia not accepting such flights.

              Colombia sends their presidencial airplane to ferry the deportees - to my understanding, this is akin to retrieving POWs - after which Chato Cheetah balks and the military flights are replaced by civilian freight.

              Win for Colombia. They get their people back, in humane conditions.

              The fascists can still turn back on these terms, granted, but then it will be back to the beggining, with the threat of commercial tariffs, etc. Colombia goes back to sending their planes to pick up their people.

              What else do you want?

              Colombia to abandon their people on unfriendly foreign soil?

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                3 days ago

                What else do I want? Nazis to not ethnically cleanse? But I’m gathering that I am in a minority here unfortunately.

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                  3 days ago

                  Brother what else is Colombia supposed to do to prevent an ethnic cleanse in an unfriendly state, other than sending planes to rescue their people from that state? Do you want them to declare war on the United States or what?

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                  I’ve spent a good time of my day going back and forward with you exactly because I want to understand with you keep defending Colombia cooperated with fascists when they did not.

                  They had people there, in need of help, in the hands of very bad actors.

                  What were their options? Abandon those people? Become as bad as the fascists in the process? Worst, in my view. A fascist is an enemy, someone who abandons their kin is a traitor of the worst kind.

                  What was Colombia supposed to do, in your view? Give me a straighforward answer, not a circular comeback as you have been giving. Blurting you do not want nazis to ethnic cleanse is not an answer to my question.

                  The fascist american regime (not Nazi; that was the late National Socialist Party of Germany) is currently expelling foreigners by force. I am sure many have already died but we are not seeing mass graves and killings of elements of certain population groups. Be intellectualy honest, please. I am engaging in good faith.

                  No one here is saying they support that cadre of criminals. No one is attacking you or your position.

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                    3 days ago

                    I was pretty sure I gave you a straight answer multiple times, but apparently everything I say is wrong lately, so I guess this is just one of all of those times.

                    Doesn’t matter, we’ll all probably dead in a year anyway. If I’m lucky, it will be less than five for me as it is.