I remember reading the push was over the US deporting colombians, on military plains, handcuffed, as if they were prisoners of war.
El Chato threats - and announces - tariffs in retaliation of Colombia not accepting such flights.
Colombia sends their presidencial airplane to ferry the deportees - to my understanding, this is akin to retrieving POWs - after which Chato Cheetah balks and the military flights are replaced by civilian freight.
Win for Colombia. They get their people back, in humane conditions.
The fascists can still turn back on these terms, granted, but then it will be back to the beggining, with the threat of commercial tariffs, etc. Colombia goes back to sending their planes to pick up their people.
What else do you want?
Colombia to abandon their people on unfriendly foreign soil?
Brother what else is Colombia supposed to do to prevent an ethnic cleanse in an unfriendly state, other than sending planes to rescue their people from that state? Do you want them to declare war on the United States or what?
You’d save a lot of pointless back and forth in threads like this if you just say what you mean, instead of making people drag it out of you bit by bit.
I’ve spent a good time of my day going back and forward with you exactly because I want to understand with you keep defending Colombia cooperated with fascists when they did not.
They had people there, in need of help, in the hands of very bad actors.
What were their options? Abandon those people? Become as bad as the fascists in the process? Worst, in my view. A fascist is an enemy, someone who abandons their kin is a traitor of the worst kind.
What was Colombia supposed to do, in your view? Give me a straighforward answer, not a circular comeback as you have been giving. Blurting you do not want nazis to ethnic cleanse is not an answer to my question.
The fascist american regime (not Nazi; that was the late National Socialist Party of Germany) is currently expelling foreigners by force. I am sure many have already died but we are not seeing mass graves and killings of elements of certain population groups. Be intellectualy honest, please. I am engaging in good faith.
No one here is saying they support that cadre of criminals. No one is attacking you or your position.
I was pretty sure I gave you a straight answer multiple times, but apparently everything I say is wrong lately, so I guess this is just one of all of those times.
Doesn’t matter, we’ll all probably dead in a year anyway. If I’m lucky, it will be less than five for me as it is.
After calling the entire current american cabinet fascist a few times in previous replies, doing that would be, at the least, intelectually dishonest.
That part is already well defined.
What I want to know, from you, is who is negotiating with them.
Petro saying military planes can’t deport citizens to Colombia but nonmilitary planes can in order to get the tariff threat removed is a negotiation.
That’s funny.
I remember reading the push was over the US deporting colombians, on military plains, handcuffed, as if they were prisoners of war.
El Chato threats - and announces - tariffs in retaliation of Colombia not accepting such flights.
Colombia sends their presidencial airplane to ferry the deportees - to my understanding, this is akin to retrieving POWs - after which Chato Cheetah balks and the military flights are replaced by civilian freight.
Win for Colombia. They get their people back, in humane conditions.
The fascists can still turn back on these terms, granted, but then it will be back to the beggining, with the threat of commercial tariffs, etc. Colombia goes back to sending their planes to pick up their people.
What else do you want?
Colombia to abandon their people on unfriendly foreign soil?
What else do I want? Nazis to not ethnically cleanse? But I’m gathering that I am in a minority here unfortunately.
Brother what else is Colombia supposed to do to prevent an ethnic cleanse in an unfriendly state, other than sending planes to rescue their people from that state? Do you want them to declare war on the United States or what?
Now there’s an idea. Do what the U.S. did to them.
You’d save a lot of pointless back and forth in threads like this if you just say what you mean, instead of making people drag it out of you bit by bit.
I thought I did say what I meant, but apparently whatever I say, as usual, is stupid and wrong and worthless.
So maybe you and everyone else should just tell me to fuck off and never talk to any of you again. It’s probably for the best.
I’ve spent a good time of my day going back and forward with you exactly because I want to understand with you keep defending Colombia cooperated with fascists when they did not.
They had people there, in need of help, in the hands of very bad actors.
What were their options? Abandon those people? Become as bad as the fascists in the process? Worst, in my view. A fascist is an enemy, someone who abandons their kin is a traitor of the worst kind.
What was Colombia supposed to do, in your view? Give me a straighforward answer, not a circular comeback as you have been giving. Blurting you do not want nazis to ethnic cleanse is not an answer to my question.
The fascist american regime (not Nazi; that was the late National Socialist Party of Germany) is currently expelling foreigners by force. I am sure many have already died but we are not seeing mass graves and killings of elements of certain population groups. Be intellectualy honest, please. I am engaging in good faith.
No one here is saying they support that cadre of criminals. No one is attacking you or your position.
I was pretty sure I gave you a straight answer multiple times, but apparently everything I say is wrong lately, so I guess this is just one of all of those times.
Doesn’t matter, we’ll all probably dead in a year anyway. If I’m lucky, it will be less than five for me as it is.
That was unnecessarily cruel towards yourself.
Have I been engaging you in bad faith? Have I resorted to insult or personal attack? If so, that was uncalled for and I sincerely apologize.
You won’t accept my answer so obviously my answer is wrong as usual.
Because I don’t see this exchange as win/lose situation I can only state, again, that I find your statement unnecessarily cruel towards yourself.