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    Oof. Yes!

    The proprietary cloud crap usually has worse or non-existent documentation, fewer features, and a terrible or non-existent API.

    But it comes with a salesperson. So there’s that.

    But people with cloud server orchestration skills are terrifyingly expensive right now, so self-hosting a better product can be a very hard sell.

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      The Salesperson is incredibly important. They take the person responsible for making the purchase decision out to lunch and for rounds of golf, after all!

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      Hmm really? Would proficiency with Terraform and knowledge of the services offered by at least one major cloud provider be considered “cloud server orchestration skills” or do you mean something more/different?

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        Yep! My best guess is that maybe 1 in 10 organizations currently has any in-house orchestration skills on staff at all.

        (I’m just annecdotaly guessing based on my professional network, which is actually heavily biased towards organizations that have orchestration skills, but also based on job offers that my peers with orchestration skills are seeing.)

        And the ones that have it get to charge a premium for shitty cloud services to the ones that do not.

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          That’s pretty crazy, good to know. We had a hard time hiring a “cloud engineer” last year ourselves, though for the client in question we were looking for deep Azure chops. I’ve been learning some Terraform for this reason so we can respond a bit better, sounds like I might be well served to focus on it. Feel like DM’ing with salaries / offers you’ve been hearing about, if you have?