• JokeDeity@lemm.ee
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    3 hours ago

    Remember when all the bots and trolls put all their energy into saying don’t vote for Kamala because of what she might not do for Palestine? REMEMBER THAT SHIT??

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        22 hours ago

        I think that line of thinking either heavy cope or just bad faith politics circl jerk,

        if you vote for my guy, the genocide would be less bad 🤡

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          I said they would be the same on Israel/Palestine (or mostly indistinguishable anyway), not claiming one would be better or worse there.

          You won’t win people over by blaming voters sitting this one out for not co-signing a geonicide.

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      Kamala was going to do so much for Palestine, I’m glad Americans were willing to trade Palestinian lives to save themselves at home from Trump.

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    People stayed home and let any possibility for a two-states solution evaporate. I’m sure they’re glad to move the discussion towards turning Gaza into a Trump resort.

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      Any chance for a two state solution has been dead for decades, and everyone knows it.

      The Israelis have intentionally carved up Palestinian territories with the explicit goal of making a viable state impossible, and they passed that point long ago.

      Politicians talking about a two state solution have just been lying to you.

      The only viable solution is a one state solution, and that one state would be majority Muslim.

      That’s why the Zionists are so dead set on committing genocide and ethnic cleansing; it’s the only way Israel will actually still exist with its current form of government 50+ years from now.

      The alternative is a state where the majority of people are not Jewish so the state itself can’t be tied to Judaism unless the majority are being subjected by a minority, and that is not sustainable.

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      They shouldn’t have to leave their homes and homeland because some westerners want to ethnically cleanse them from the land.

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        They absolutely shouldn’t. The entire premise where Israel took Palestinians land by violence should have been stopped 60 years ago.

        But if Palestinians want to leave, they should have a place to go. But neighboring countries won’t allow it.

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      This is what the israel going to do… It doesn’t matter what some cuck in a white house has to say.

      Israel is calling shots

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        Except they can only do this with us military backing. If the US didn’t back Israel when Iran attacked, Palestine would currently be the only country in that territory.

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          That is true but it does not change that US behaves as a junior alliance partner vis-a-vis Israel. This could flip and like will once boomers start die off properly but AIPAC lobby is strong so time will tell.

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    well, leftists/ squad progressives did tell all the young democrats not to vote for Joe/Kamala, so they didn’t vote. with literally everything at stake, having already lost things like federally protected safe abortion access. you know who did turn out, young people, arab americans, and latino americans who voted for trump, think that made up ~ 2.3% and the differece between the young people who didn’t vote democrat and the “new republicans” tilted the balance in the swing states? nah, probably not, right. do they call that a phyrric victory? no that’s egyptian. anyway, congratulations to everyone who marched on every major us city, and took over campus commons across the nation in the spring and summer of an election year, chanting “from the river to the sea”. i wonder if that scared the bezeezus outta just middle america or all of it. nah, probably had nothing to do with it. anyway, enjoy your victory over “genocide joe” (kamala) folks

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      i marched and everyone i talked to in person was adamant that their goal was to shift kamala left, not to shift the election toward trump. i get your anger about the election, but don’t let the terminally online color what those protestors really wanted. they’re also now the most organized resistance against trump. they’re still working, even under threat of violence from the national guard. they’re heroes, not villains

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        Yeah, fuck the terminally online twats who pushed ‘both sides are the same’, but anti-genocide protesters were not inherently contributors to the outcome we received. They were a voice of conscience to a nation that was still not ready to heed it. Unfortunately.

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        The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

        The consequences were known, and they’ve arrived

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      well, progressives did tell all the young democrats not to vote for Joe/Kamala

      Bullshit. “Progressives” did no such thing. Progressives are the most loyal and reliable voting base in American politics, with even more consistency than “Bible and flag” conservatives. Progressives also make up the bulk of grassroots Democratic activism and do most of the volunteer work for Democratic candidates. That is despite being shit on constantly, just like you are doing now. Democrats don’t deserve progressive votes, but they have them.

      congratulations to everyone who marched on every major us city, and took over campus commons across the nation in the spring and summer of an election year…

      Maybe Joe and Kamala shouldn’t have been supporting a genocide in “an election year”. It’s funny how you baselessly blame progressives while putting no blame whatsoever on the candidates themselves! It’s so incredibly fucked that Biden thought he could run again and that Kamala didn’t even seek the appearance of being democratically nominated. We lost to Trump because of gross incompetence on the part of Democratic leadership.