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    I rather be destroyed by a comment then to be obese and ruled by an orange deranged criminal convicted sex offender clown.

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    Coming from Germany, I can confirm that the objectively correct level of sweetness is what they sell over there. America/UK are too sweet (obviously!). Japan is not sweet enough (duh!).

    In other news, sweetness, just like spicyness, seems to be acquired taste and once you got brainsugared by one country’s Big Sweets you never come back.

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      Age plays a part. I don’t each much sweets as an adult in the US because they are usually cloying. I’d rather have some fruit. It was the opposite when I was a child.

      I had some mild sweet Oreos from Korea recently, and I prefer them to normal ones, for instance.

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        Not sure how old you are, but the sweets may have a comeback later in life. AFAIK, the sweet taste receptors on the tongue are the last to deteriorate at old age, so all non-sweet food will start tasting more and more bland. Thus all the cake parties for the elderly.

        At least that is what I half-remember from my studies, grateful for any corrections.

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    I’ll give you this one, most “European” milk chocolate tastes better when there’s no lipolysis involved, which is common in Hershey’s.

    Then again, there’s Chocolonely which blows the competition out of the water.

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      I heard of Hershey’s just like other brands of American descent I was incredibly poised to try them (MTN dew, taco bell (this was the nineties, they weren’t in Europe yet).

      Travelled to America, tried Hershey’s and spat it out, vile stuff.

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        Yeah it’s not great. I grew up with it and even then I only like it on smores. And I’m sure that’s more nostalgia than anything. By itself it’s just gross.

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      I keep seeing this about chocolonely and I am starting to wonder if I had a bad bar of it. The bar I had was chalky, mealy, and honestly one of the grossest things I have ever had in my mouth.

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        Being honest, it’s not worth calling home about it, but it’s above par with everything else you may find on a candy store. It’s mostly their free trade policies that’s giving them so much hype.

        That said, some people go nuts for certain candy bars that I’ll rather lick dry cum out of a subway tile than eat one.

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      I’ve heard American chocolate tastes different because they originally used spoiled milk to save money and eventually people got used to the taste and it became the norm.

      I think I heard that on either How it’s Made or Modern Marvels

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      Yeah, I got a bag of mixed Hershey’s minibars from the US and that stuff was vile.

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        It’s the cheapest commonly available option, of course it’s not good. (We have even worse stuff but it’s pretty much only seen around Easter)

        The US has terrible and incredible options for pretty much everything. Beer, chocolate, beaches, whatever. It’s just never the mass-marketed stuff.

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          Yeah, I think this is a bigger deal than most people realize. US went through a generation of unfettered corporate search for the bottom line, with no restrictions, and we got what we deserve.

          Things are finally swinging back the other way: we do have good chocolate, beer, bread, etc, but it’s ”premium”, expensive. So, do you choose the bread you can afford or the bread with texture, fiber, nutritional value, and less sugar? Somehow we need to get past this market segmentation, so better quality items can be more commonly available. I no longer eat mass market candy, bread, or beer, and I don’t think that’s pretentious partly because it also means I do without more often, and I don’t miss that swill

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          That’s fair, Europe has also plenty of cheap and subpar chocolate.
          But none of the cheap European stuff is disgusting. It’s overly sugary, grainy, or dull-tasting. But still miles better than my Hershey’s experience.

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            Milka comes to mind for me. I can have one piece and I’m good. It’s flavor is certainly better than Hersheys but ffs it’s so sweet it tastes like they forgot to add the chocolate.

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        The mixed bags of candy always taste bad.

        I’m not going to go out on a limb to defend fucking Hershey’s but I can say with confidence that the mixed bags of candy are universally a step down in quality.

        It’s shitty candy meant to be given to children who don’t care. Individual bars will be better. Still fuckin Hershey’s don’t get me wrong but better.

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          Also, if you get them around Halloween, or full size near 4th of July, they’ll be fresh and much better. Still not great comparatively, but much better than a random bar in August.

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            You gotta wait until just before Halloween.

            Don’t want to jump on that bag early and get last year’s left overs.

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              There’s no “last years leftovers” it’s not worth it to store it for a year. That’s why it always goes on clearance the day after Halloween.

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      My father’s best friend was Dutch and he introduced me to their version, which they call Dubbel Zout. It’s super salty (dubbel zout means ‘double salt’) and I cannot get enough of it.

      But then I’m one of the few Americans who seems to love black licorice and hate the red variety.

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        Having been an immigrant in The Netherlands, lets just say that their licorice is an acquired taste (which I myself never did, so congrats for liking that stuff).

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          I don’t think he gave me a piece expecting me to hate it, but he was surprised how much I loved it. I think I ate his entire supply while our trip to London (where he lived) lasted.

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        Sounds great! Never had Dubbel Zout, but I’ll keep my eye out for it.

        Oh, and I totally agree that black is better than red licorice.

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        I love licorice too, the Panda one here in the US is very good. It’s polarizing, I don’t know so many people who like it but they all really like it, and it seems independent from the other flavors they like, some of my least adventurous eaters like it, and some of those with very broad plates don’t like it.

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      Ammonium chloride covered black licorice is better than sugar coated high-fructose corn syrup.

      Salty licorice is so delicious. Last time I hit up the international store I found smoked salted licorice and it basically turbo crack to me. The only reason I haven’t rushed back and cleared the shelf is it’s like $10 a 120 g bag.

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          That liqueur sounds interesting. I think I have an affinity for things that sound wonky to most people I know. Petrochemical smells in Islay scotch? Fantastic. The funky hot garbage/burnt electronics of pot still Jamaican rum? Awesome. The sensation of making out with a spruce tree some gins have? Delicious.

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        I don’t know if we see the same thing, but recently I got a small bag of salty black licorice from ikea, out of surprise that it’s really a thing, not just a TikTok challenge. I like black licorice, everyone like salt: maybe there’s some synergy like with chocolate and bacon? How bad can it be? So disgusting.

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      To add more evidence: Japan is not in the list and people here find licorice disgusting. You cannot find it anywhere except at ikea which is far away from here. And even there they only have one type which is okayish at best. PLZ SEND HELP!

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        Ha, my friend is half-Finnish and would go back to see her family. She’d always give me some salty black licorice as most people here don’t care for it. I never used to, but my tastebuds changed at some point (or, I guess, I only like the version from the Nordics; I haven’t had the versions from the US in decades so I can’t compare those).

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    USAmericans not understanding just how sweet their sweets are compared to European sweets is just too good.

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    Thank goodness for the scribbles, otherwise I might have learned who wrote this thing I liked and we can’t have that.

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    Does the EU have Pixy Stix?

    They’re literally just tubes of slightly flavored powdered sugar that you pour into your mouth.

    Dollar stores used to sell generic ones for $0.01 each, and you could find jumbo ones that were like 20 of them in one tube.

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      We have somethng similar, but it is agressively sour and you are supposed to turn it into a drink. I did it once and it sucked. Pouring it straight to mouth however: delight.

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        Pretty sure I gave the cashier depression when I figured out buying less than 13 at a time meant no sales tax… (I was 8-9y/o, every penny mattered)

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    I live in Japan and definitely some sweets that I’ve brought back from the US to share as well as recipes I’ve made (from my grandmother’s cookbook) were too sweet for a number of folks (usually men, so there may be something else going on here with cultural images/norms and the like as men aren’t generally “supposed to” be overly fond of sweet stuff). Still, the vast majority of people liked them and wanted more. I do find myself toning down sugar in recipes, though. Less in grandma’s cookie recipes, less in the cornbread recipe I found online, etc.

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    Does “Europe” include “UK” (I mean not geographically but in terms of candy sweetness)?

    I had coworker bringing some sweets from visit in UK and those felt extremely sweet to me. I grew up in Europe but live in US, and it felt sweeter than US candies.

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      I don’t know about the UK, but when I notice other candy from other countries is less sweet than the US, it’s not a direct comparison. They’re usually different types of treats, and my reaction is : wow you can make a candy out of something other than sugar or corn syrup. Maybe it’s dairy based with actual dairy, or nut based with actual nuts, but it can make an excellent candy even without the buckets of sugar

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      Yes. It’s only the EU political union we’re no longer in. From what I’ve tasted of other European sweets they’re about the same.

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        Hmmm, so I’m starting to have theory that with local confectionary one already knows what they like and what they don’t, and when someone brings candies from another country you’re trying candies that normally wouldn’t eat at home so they might seem too sweet, too sour, etc…

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    I don’t know about candy but when I follow a bakery recipe from an American source I always cut the sugar amount in half and it still ends up a little too sweet for my taste.

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      I’m am American baker and I know this is anecdotal but I’ve always cut sugar in half (or more) and I have nothing but rave reviews. Someone just paid me $100 for a cake. And I’m a hobbyist.

      I think that most people here just don’t know better, have never tried it any other way. And when you show them how it can be… they fall in love.

      ETA: from recipes I get elsewhere. Most of my repipes are my own at this point.

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    LoL depression as they main export.

    Dude obviously never went there.

    Americans are all hyped up on Xanax.

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    Well yeah America is like the wild wild west for food. Everything is fucking sweet even our bread. I hate our food in the us, Im excited for the new appointment. Maybe we can go back to eating and marketing healthy food, not just food that makes profits at the cost of the consumer. Food in the us can be a drug, very addictive.