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I agree.
To repeat immortal words of the sage Pierce Morgan, “what should the Iranian government do?”.
They could try not constantly funding and training groups commiting terrorist acts.
Absolutely. And the Israelis should dismantle the apartheid, end the occupation, get the fuck on their side of their 1967 border, and recognize the sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza. Plus, they should handle over their war criminals to the ICC and start a Truth and Reconciliation process. Throw in paying reparations, because why the fuck not.
Somehow I don’t think though that Pierce Morgan would accept that as a valid answer when he was asking “what should the Israeli government do”. Do you? Because if you do, I will also accept your answer about the terrorist groups. 100%.
I’m up voting both of you and I’m sad about it
Iran is correct.
Israel is destabilizing the region further with this shit.
Eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye…
We hear about Israel’s right to protect itself so often we almost forget that everyone has it.
The great war is coming!
The war to end all wars!
So great that there will not be a need for another. (this time for sure)
It’s unlikely they’ll attack before the election, if they do. They know every escalation is another vote for Trump, and even Iran doesnt want Trump in power. My guess is they’re going to see who wins and what comes out of it before making any decisions.
Iran doesn’t want Trump in power
Why not, would you say?
Trump is an even bigger Zionist supporter than Biden, which is pretty impressive considering how much support Biden gives them.
On top of that, he also did a lot of bad things towards Iran when he was president like sabotaging a deal Obama setup meant to ensure Iran has no nukes in favor of less sanctions and better relations. He also assassinated their top general Soleimani.
This analysis ignores the internal motivations for foreign policy.
How so?
Iran has it’s own internal politics and factions it needs to appease.
This is true of most countries too.
The US invasion of Iraq had far more to do with internal politics than it did with any actions of Saddam.
The current elected leader of Iran was actually the concillatory to the west candidate, elected when tensions were not quite as high.
Now that tensions are high, he has to prove he’s not too weak to his own constituency, as the Persian people come together under what they consider to be an unjust attack.
Again, this is true in general for most countries. Foreign policy is driven far more by domestic politics then most people consider.
Their display of strength was displayed during th Oct 1 attacks. I’m not saying a follow up attack by Iran is unlikely. I’m saying the plitical situation in America currently, and whatever it is after Nov 5th, will be a big factor in what they decide to do.
Their Oct 1 attacks were in response to the assassination of Nasrallah, in combination with a response to the assassination of a visiting diplomat in Tehran from a separate attack from Israel.
Iran agreed not to respond to the assassination because the US promised that if Iran didn’t respond, the US would secure a peace deal for Gaza.
The fact that they delivered and the US didn’t is well known to the Persian people, even if it isn’t here. And, the lack of response was considered internally there as encouraging Israeli aggression.
The whole ‘nothing is more important than the US election’ is far less accurate than you think it is.
What were soldiers doing in hospitals and schools? It’s almost like they wanted to get themselves blown up!
Oh, my bad. Wrong place. I got it confused with this one:
Or maybe it was this one:
Israel strike on Gaza school-turned-shelter kills 17, hospital says
Damn, maybe it was this one:
Israeli attack closes last functioning hospital in north Gaza
Found it! I was thinking of this one:
Israeli shelling of Gaza school kills at least 22
Well, it’s at least one of those.
What Iranian hospitals or schools did Israel hit?
Based on intelligence, IAF aircraft struck missile manufacturing facilities used to produce the missiles that Iran fired at the State of Israel over the last year. These missiles posed a direct and immediate threat to the citizens of the State of Israel. Simultaneously, the IDF struck surface-to-air missile arrays and additional Iranian aerial capabilities, that were intended to restrict Israel’s aerial freedom of operation in Iran. Source
It’s an obvious reference to the terrorist state of Isreal bombing multiple (almost every single one) hospitals and schools in Palestine, in the ongoing genocide of Palestinians, perpetrated by the terrorist state of Isreal.
P.s. Nobody in their right minds believe that Iran is the instigator or that Isreal hasn’t been trying to get Iran to attack it in an attempt to get the US military further involved in their Naziesque operation of extermination and invasions.
Exactly. I guess the missile accuracy varies depending on the direction launched.
So all of article mention that the claims comes from the most immoral army in the world
“Alright, Israel has been a thorn in our side for too long! Launch the missiles!”
“Yes sir! Where shall we strike?”
“The outskirts of their cities in unpopulated, barren land. They need to know to fear us.”
“But sir, what if this merely causes them to accept that we are only a potential threat through our missiles and, given the absence of damage from our previous attack, they feel emboldened and destroy our manufacturing sites, silos, and launch pads.”
“Impossible. Strike their wastelands.”
Who could have seen this coming?
Edit: am I really the only one that saw this coming? Didn’t realize Hellen Keller had so many accounts.
Iran was playing by Western rules, drop rockets on areas not likely to have casualties or be strategic. It’s supposed to be a de-escalation. They didn’t account for Israel clearly wanting to escalate this war into another regional conflict of them against the entire middle east.
I mean… it’s Netanyahu at the reins. To be honest, I’m not even sure whether he likes Israelis or dislikes Palestinians, he might just be a violence enthusiast bringing his hobby to work with him
When it comes to Israel this is a naive take. Hatred for Palestinians and other Arabs (especially those “intruding” upon their divinely promised lands) permeates all layers of Israeli society. You could get any Israeli politician (even the “leftist” ones) to rule and they’d do similar things, with maybe more or less effort into ceasefire negotiations.
Their divinely promised lands that they never had before 1940. Just reminding everyone that Western powers gave international Jews land that was already occupied, based on a book of fairy tales from the Bronze Age. We created this problem.
Well, I didn’t mean to be taken literally. Netanyahu understands espionage and murder and is supreme executor of all affairs. Expecting anything else from his Israel is just silly. Frankly, I just want to know whether Iran will make the next decade a nightmare for me with their response. That one is up in the air.
I wasn’t taking you literally, but now that I reread the comment chain I did misunderstand you. Nevermind.
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