Israeli jews have the right to life, freedom, safety. They have the right to a home in the Holy Lands.

They don’t have the right to set up a Jewish supremacist apartheid state to deny the same rights to everyone else.

The state that they have created and entrenched with genocide and “facts on the ground” no longer has legitimacy to exist in its present form. Because of its entrenchment I don’t see how it can be reformed.

So instead, ending this political entity to establish a new democratic one seems to be the surest way out of this mess.

This is not a call for genocide by any stretch of imagination.

Wake me up when Israel institutes universal suffrage and legal equality for everyone from the river to the sea, elects Marwan Barghouthi as president and changes it flag and anthem to incorporate Palestinian national symbolism. If such a country would like to still call itself Israel, I will be happy to be proven wrong.

Because this is what ending apartheid means, buddy. Not just getting rid of Netanyahu, but deep structural change, and a commitment to justice, truth and reconciliation.

The majority of European antisémites have zero problem with the existence of Israel “out there”. They are more than happy to see the Jews leave Europe for the middle east. American antisémites are fantasizing that Israel will be the site of the Second Coming of Christ who will then turn all the Jews into Christians.

This observation alone should tell you everything about why it is stupid and wrong to use attitudes towards Israel as proxy measures for attitudes towards Jews. When the antisémites pass your metric with flying colours whereas Jewish anti-Zionists fail it, your metric is just shit, simple as that.

White South Africa did not have the right to exist. Rhodesia did not have a right to exist.

That’s what we are talking about.

Israel has become a Jewish supremacist apartheid state. Its crimes have become so egregious and so entrenched (“facts on the ground”) that it is not unreasonable to argue that it cannot be reformed in its present form. In this case it is reasonable to argue for its replacement by a democratic successor state in which Jews and others will all have the same rights to freedom and safety.

Germany equating its historic debt to Jewish people with support for a particular state is an absolutely disgusting distortion of the German obligation of remembrance.

Just like this, they throw under the bus any anti-Zionist Jew.

Honestly, when it comes to Israel/Palestine, the German state should just do what their other genocide victim, Namibia, told them to do and Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Stay the fuck out of it. Say the honorable thing that you will abide by the rulings of international courts. Provide humanitarian aid, help refugees and displaced people. Be a ray of light and humanity, not a stickler for rules and definitions. Don’t be so goddamn fucking German for a change.

Arguably, a much more critical job for a capital-intensive army.

Of course. If only Palestinian society was afforded the same amount of nuance.

Define “all”. Because the status quo ante before October 7th was already a fucking crime.

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The way I understood your point is that their foundational atrocity, the Nakba, makes majority-Jewish democracy impossible. I.e., it could have never at any point in its history have been a democratic country. Did I understand your point wrong?

To that point I responded that other ethnostate democracies exist in the region that also have foundational atrocities in their history but are now pretty democratic and pretty peaceful, …all things considered. But they had to learn the lesson the hard way. That’s my point, that Israelis need to at some point also face the harsh reality of the impossibility of their nationalist delusions. Just like the Greeks, the Turks, the Bulgarians etc.

I don’t see it. Same shit happened all over the Balkans, Anatolia and the Caucasus. Hell it’s not even the most recent example. Cyprus has been subjected to colonization by Anatolian Turks since the 1974 war, and that’s after the Yom Kippur War.

I don’t think so. In the context of the eastern Mediterranean and the Balkans, the Nakba is (sadly) not that unique.

And to imagine, people in QC sometimes drive to ON for emergency care because our wait times are even longer.

RoC: votes conservatives.

QC: BLOC MAJORITAIRE

See you at the next sovereignty debate.

The Israelis have been “creating facts on the ground” in the West Bank for thirty years.

These are now facts and Israel will have to reckon with what those facts mean.

It has always been a trilemma for them: Israel can be large, Jewish, democratic, pick two. They seem to have frozen the first variable, making the trilemma a dilemma: a Jewish state or a democratic one.

On Sunday, a group of 250 Iranian legislators introduced a motion that requires the administration to designate the Canadian Army and federal police forces as terrorist organizations.

Historically speaking, from an indigenous perspective, the characterization of the RCMP as terrorist is not too far off the mark.

Um, yes? Heat pump until -15C, baseboards for the relatively fewer days that go below that. Plus good insulation.

In Quebec we have cheap hydroelectric of course, but I mean, between nuclear power, renewables and hydro, that’s basically how.

Because of European asylum rules. Those migrants have to be processed in their country of entry.

Also, because they are racist fucks, who are paid to believe that Greece is being invaded.

Um, you’re describing Greece plus or minus some unemployment percentage points.