To the people complaining about US politics overshadowing all other discussions. I too wish US politics were unremarkable.
This person makes a great point. It’s amazing how vapid and meaningless our common discourse has become. Long has it been since edifying conversation has been the norm.
Trump isn’t going away, even if he doesn’t win. That’s what people thought in 2020. Now that Biden’s president, Trump will just disappear, right? Wrong.
And yes, I know he said that he won’t run again in 2028, but I don’t believe it. His cult would beg him to run again, and he’d do it.
He might be gone, but his cult isn’t.
- He did go away for a while, but not by choice. He was banned from Twitter, his reddit group quarantined, and news stations fucking finally decided to stop reporting on his every stupid statement
- Of course he won’t run again in 2028, he’ll be dead. The dude looks like he’s knocking on
heaven’shell’s door right now.
I think he’ll be either dead or not lucid enough to run personally
Or in prison.
We can all hope, and this time we’re probably gonna be right.
But the Republicans aren’t running out of people.
There’s no reason to think Trump’s end will make the bad half of America stop this push. There’s a relatively good chance they’ll find a sufficiently appealing new leader or puppet. If that falls, maybe you can rest and go back to casually provoking the religious right, playing catch with your rights, and still stay safe for a while. Members of the LGBT community dropping “Live and let live.” in favor of “Use the right pronouns!” was a potentially fatal mistake.
While you’re definitely correct that Trump isn’t the last bigot who will run for president, none of them will have rhe same level of influence he did.
Trump is a literal cult leader. You have pastors like Shane Vaughn who literally call him “a messiah.” He is literally worshipped. That’s why he could get away with Jan 6th, that’s why he’ll have so many voters no matter what, it’s a cult.
With the above said, the his defeat will dishearten his mkst fervent followers. I believe many of them will never be able to bring themselves to vote for another candidate, ever. Not all, but many. Republican voter enthusiasm will be at an all time low.
Following this, the infighting we already see will only get worse as would-be successors fight for the scraps that their titan left behind while others fight to leave Trumpism in the dust. Even if they manage to get a majority, they’d accomplish nothing meaningful.
Their entire plan hinges on Donald Trump’s cult influence. The depend on his rabid base of supporters. If he loses this election, that goes away. The remnants will be fought over, but none of them will be able to touch the level of influence Trump himself had. His legacy will leave the Republican party fractured for decades.
If he doesn’t end up in prison or the psych ward he’ll be too old to “run” again.
Yeah we thought that about Biden and the fascist xunt still ran again, destroying the primary, and eventually appointed one of the least popular politicians in US history in his stead.
Lol what?
Is biden the fascist now to whitewash trump?
Trump voters want to talk about making towns safe, permanently removing people who cause problems or don’t play along properly, and make a society where white men to a greater extent can do some kinds of horrible abuse behind closed doors with everyone knowing, most people tolerating it, and only a few authority figures able to do anything about it if they want to or are pressured to.
Four options:
- He’s finally prosecuted for his countless crimes and lands in jail for life
- Natural death/diagnosis of dementia
- He’s voted out
- He’s elected and someone with better aim tries their luck
He’s finally prosecuted for his countless crimes and lands in jail for life
Fucking ROTFLcopter. Yeah right.
I don’t expect him to live a full term even if he’s not assassinated, and Vance is a fascist without dementia.
Imagine having peace of mind while your team promotes genocide.
Peak liberal privilege.
The last 10 years have been really mask-off for both parties.
Imagine not having peace of mind because must spew nonsense on Lemmy…
Imagine being privileged enough to know that another Trump term won’t affect you.
Imagine not giving a shit about all the women and queer people that will lose their basic human rights, because you know you are safely insulated behind your wealth, sexuality, gender identity, and/or sex.
Imagine pretending that Trump, who has urged Netanyahu to “Finish the job quickly”, is the less genocidal option in two weeks.
Peak tankie nonsense.
When you find yourself saying words like “the less genocidal option”, you should stop and think what brought you here.
Don’t vote for less genocide. Vote for no genocide. Vote Stein.
There’s more than a couple reasons a lot of westerners don’t really see Gazans as victims, some of them aren’t even racism.
Would be way easier to argue their case if October 7th didn’t go the way it did.
It was just a really bad decision.
I’m personally in favor of cutting ties with Israel as well, considering they’ve strayed so far away from civility and are indeed killing a shitload of people. But I have very little compassion for the people of Gaza, given what they largely want and support. They want to fight and thresh and kill until one side is dead and gone, and we all know which side that will be. Everyone knows, except them.
It was just a really bad decision.
Hamas made that decision, not the Palestinian people. Just like the executive branch is choosing to send over more weapons, not the US people.
Trump is one problem in a world full of problems, but goddamn will it feel good to be rid of him all the same.
I almost can’t remember what the internet was like without seeing his name or face every day. I miss it.
The internet you remember before he came around is dead, never to return. It’s not his doing, it’s the complete and utter corporate takeover of the internet, and the funneling of 95% of the traffic to 4 sites. It’s the algorithmic content presentation, and the curtaining of real friendship content. It’s these platforms refusing to show you what you want, and only showing ads and boosted content, which is essentially an ad. The Internet is dead. Long live the Internet!
lol no: Trump will keep running until he dies and Ds will keep using him as a bogeyman
Fine, but he’s getting close to the end. We should keep him out of the White House until then.
Peak liberalism.
Imagine thinking that once the loudest symptom of fascism is no longer visible, the decades long multibillion dollar Republican project to undemocratically seize power just goes away. That all the structural issues with America go away.
Big “We want to go back to brunch” energy.
Imagine thinking that once the loudest symptom of fascism is no longer visible, the decades long multibillion dollar Republican project to undemocratically seize power just goes away.
What? You’re telling me that what happened in 1933 with the business plot to overthrow the government and no one of importantance being held accountable allowed fascism to continue to grow. That is… That actually tracks with America. We have a terrible short term memory.
Voting him out will not remove him from your feed. You will hear about how the election was stolen again. About how his disciples tried to destroy the capitol or the white house or whatever, again. You will hear about how he was out on trial again. You will hear about whatever new crap he comes up with.
I’d rather watch him flail about after losing again than watch him execute his
mass deportationgenocide plans.Agreed.
Yeah that will only be popcorn time.
We’re trying! Sadly we are wedged between two factions that are hell-bent on getting him elected.
One, purposefully- the other, ignorantly.
Maybe if you guys didnt put yeltsin in place you wouldnt have russian interference now. Just saying
lmao
Agree with the sentiment for sure, but would also add that a lot of Americans like him, they LIKE what he said, he was heavily supported at last count. Even now he is supported substantially.
That is something many people need to think about. What happens next election? He won’t be the last.
Others don’t seem to have the hold over those clowns as he does. Meatball Ron fell flat. Vance wouldn’t maintain this level of support for 5 minutes. Hawley can’t. Horse face green is just a clown and not a serious candidate.
I think his losing again would snap some people out of it.
I think the party would bail on him. Especially if he causes losses down the ballot. They won’t back him for another election.
I hope you’re right.
“Dear
USAconservatives…”The problem isn’t Trump (in this case), the problem is social media. Get off social media. Find better alternatives. Even at the best of times, when are people ever having a civil conversation about art, movies, music, etc?
I don’t use apps unless they allow creation of block lists. My news RSS app has loads of keywords blocked (including Trump, Harris, etc). My Lemmee block list is huge. Items like this post get through when they don’t trigger my keywords, but this makes me think I really should add on “USA”.
sadly, voting him out does not erase him.
I was thinking, “Wait, we can vote him out of existence?”
if we cannot incarcerate, exile him. let him go crying back to putin and see how accepted hell be
It’s amusing that Trump can’t see that Putin will drop him as soon as his usefulness ends, just like Trump does to people who support him (Giuliani, for example).
i hope thats what happens to him when he gets there.
We would be happy to see him running from prison.
he would still be eligible to assume the office from there so no thanks
