• Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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    Being Russian => banned from doing business with the rest of the world

    That’s pretty straight forward to me.

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      and what do random developers have to do with a war between oligarchies? are we banning the dirty us imperialists next, because they do more damage than russia ever will?

      or are we finding a negative thing about every nationality and ban international opensource collaboration entirely?

      or, and hear me out on this one, the individual programmers making linux and 90% of the internet happen might not be fascists regardless of what shitty government reingns their lives?

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          i do, (contemporary, us) sanctions are a way to punish entire countries for daring not to adopt neoliberalism.

          i wonder how cuba would be doing right now if not for it.

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      Western chauvinism:

      the imperial core == the rest of the world

      You may not have noticed that most of the world is ignoring the international rules-based order’s sanctions. And not only almost all of the Global South, which represents ~85% of the world’s people and the bulk of the world’s production* and natural resources. Even many Global North countries are skirting their own sanctions to trade with Russia.

      The Global North is largely sanctioning itself, and Europe is paying a very high price for it. In particular high energy prices, which is eroding their industrial base even more.


      *Since the Global North in its infinite wisdom de-industrialized itself.

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        The almost the entire world is against Russia. And I don’t see China coming to Russia’s aid any time soon.

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          You’re just making it worse 😂 You really have no idea what’s going on in the real world outside of the imperial core, and you’re really sure you do.

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              Sure, but that vote hasn’t actually done anything, and countries continue to trade with Russia. And the Global South countries haven’t curtailed their relations with Russia one whit. In fact some are building even deeper ties with Russia. They’re building an alternative system to SWIFT, they’re trading in each others’ currencies to avoid the dollar, and they’re making plans for some kind of BANCOR-like currency. The BRICS summit is happening right now, hosted by Russia.

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                They are build swift to trade with who?, also it’s not the country evading the sanctions, people do that the government don’t actively do that

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                  They are build swift to trade with who?

                  With each other, obviously. Probably BRICS+ states, for starters.

                  people do that the government don’t actively do that

                  I guess if you’ve never known anything but neoliberalism, you might think that. But governments do indeed do things like this.

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                The UN exists to provide a forum for discourse between states, not to be an international legislature. If resolutions actually had teeth the UN would cease to exist in its current form.

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          There’s definitely a lot of opposition to Russia’s actions in the world but your comment sounds especially funny today when leaders of most of the world(including the UN Secretary General and even a certain NATO country President) are currently in Kazan, Russia on a global cooperation summit.