• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    A person who could actually assemble a farm through small land acquisitions through the power of friendship probably deserves it tbh

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      1 year ago

      I wouldn’t really call it friendship. Company is a good word.

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        1 year ago

        You’re talking about using your personal connections within the community to slowly assemble a farm from small acquisitions like their deceased father’s garden and then leveraging those connections to find people to help you work the land. People that don’t need to give you their land and don’t need to work your land, they’re actually choosing to do it freely. That’d actually be amazing if it ever happened.

        That basically has zero relation with how farms work under capitalism.

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          Freely? No. For money. They can also work for money.

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            1 year ago

            Except they don’t need money, so it’s still a free choice they’re making.

            When you don’t need money to have a life worth living and all needs are already provided, any choice to work for money is a free one.

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              Who would provide for their needs? Volunteers?

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                  1 year ago

                  So instead of working for a wage you replace it with… working for no wage?

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                    1 year ago

                    If there were still wages they would only be something extra as a reward, rather than something workers need to live.

                    Personal property, remember?

                    It’s not unimaginable for there to be no wages at all, though. No one has to pay me to clean my house, cook my food, or grow my own garden. No one had to pay me to help clean up the trailer park when we were hit by a huge storm that knocked down a bunch of trees. Truly voluntary work for no reward other than good feelings and social esteem shouldn’t be underestimated.

                    That’s… probably not something that would be realistic for people like us who grew up under wage slavery, though. We probably do need rewards to do truly difficult work because we’ve been traumatized by our material conditions to associate working hard with suffering.