• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Except they don’t need money, so it’s still a free choice they’re making.

    When you don’t need money to have a life worth living and all needs are already provided, any choice to work for money is a free one.

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      1 year ago

      Who would provide for their needs? Volunteers?

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          1 year ago

          So instead of working for a wage you replace it with… working for no wage?

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            If there were still wages they would only be something extra as a reward, rather than something workers need to live.

            Personal property, remember?

            It’s not unimaginable for there to be no wages at all, though. No one has to pay me to clean my house, cook my food, or grow my own garden. No one had to pay me to help clean up the trailer park when we were hit by a huge storm that knocked down a bunch of trees. Truly voluntary work for no reward other than good feelings and social esteem shouldn’t be underestimated.

            That’s… probably not something that would be realistic for people like us who grew up under wage slavery, though. We probably do need rewards to do truly difficult work because we’ve been traumatized by our material conditions to associate working hard with suffering.

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              The economy is a bit more complicated than fixing up a trailer park buddy… Also, the fact that there are people who only want to do the bare minimum, dont want to help their neighbours and such makes your fairytale utopia collapse. Yes, it sucks that people are greedy and lazy but thats simply what people are. You’ll never change that and that’s why communism always failed when it was attempted.

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                Misanthropy. Humans wouldn’t have gotten this far if we were all greedy selfish assholes. That’s the result of trauma of living under capitalism.

                Communism never fails on its own. It is hunted down and destroyed by the US lol

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                  Throughout written human history there are mentions of greedy people.

                  Yugoslavia wasn’t destroyed by the US. Im sure there are more examples. Also, your system is not that great if it can be so easily destroyed by a foreign intervention.

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                    1 year ago

                    lol you think the Cold War had nothing to do with the collapse of Yugoslavia? Or that the Cold War was easy for the US to win?

                    okay bud