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LaFinlandia to Ukraine · 11 months ago

In push for more Ukraine troops, city of Moscow hikes pay for contract soldiers to $60,000 a year

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LaFinlandia to Ukraine · 11 months ago
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  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    deleted by creator

    • DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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      This creates financial incentive to send these expensive soldiers to their deaths as soon as possible.

  • ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works
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    That’s a lot of money in a country like Russia

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      If they ever get a dime of it.

      • Sibbo
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        Maybe they just print the money. Isn’t that what dictatorships often end up doing?

        • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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          Yeah but if they send these troops to the areas that are most deadly, then they don’t have to pay them for very long in the first place.

          No need to print the money if you’re not actually spending it.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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          I invite them to do that. I’m sure the oligarchs will love having their local savings massively devalued, and won’t support a coup of any kind. /s

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            As much as I would love that, probably they don’t have their fortune in cash savings but most probably put it into diversified investments of some sorts.

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              I’m guessing both, so they get returns and still have an “oh shit” fund. I doubt it would be good for the oligarchs, at the very least.

              Venezuela can do hyperinflation because they have a more ideologically driven elite who will ride out the turbulence. No such luck for Putin; he’s a neofeudal lord and has to keep palms greased like it.

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        I wonder who would down vote this comment like I want to know if anyone really believes that any of these soldiers will receive even a penny? please feel free to embarrass yourselves trying to prove me wrong.

      • ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works
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        Yeah true

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      According to this: https://www.worlddata.info/average-income.php

      It’s around $360,000 in the US.

      • Rose@lemmy.world
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        Average is a poor metric, as it accounts for the rich who steal like there’s no tomorrow in countries like Russia. Go by the minimum.

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          The minimum what? I’m pretty sure the minimum is 0 in both places. The minimum salary mandated by the government? That’s just a policy, it says nothing on how realistic, widespread or sustainable it is within the two countries.

          Either way I’m sure there’s a perfect metric for a comparison, probbaly the kind of lifestyle you can attain with that income, but I’d be surprised to find it significantly different than this rough estimate.

          I also don’t believe people attracted by this prospect are economists…

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          Not to underplay how bad things are in Russia, but the gini coefficient is actually a bit higher in the US

          • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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            Huh, look at that.

            That’s income, though, which is correct for this discussion. It’s the same colour on the wealth map, and I can only imagine how skewed the raw data is with all the hidden wealth.

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          Do the rich not steal in US?

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      That’s above median individual income in the US

      Our troops get paid less too

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        We also don’t send them to die en masse in human wave attacks.

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          True, and when they do get deployed, there’s, like, a McDicks and a Pappa John’s that deploys with them. And all the equipment is up to date and works (which is something even by Western standards).

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            @CanadaPlus @slumlordthanatos we need harder 2ndary sanctions. Still too much money they earn. #fuckrussia

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    $60k a year to go die on someone else’s land. Seems like a bad deal.

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    The ol’ bait-and-switch

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      Moscow calls this Operation Burgermeat.

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    Considering the average life expectancy, what does that work out to in pay per day?

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      The average life expectancy of Russian front-line troops who die is 4.5 months ($444/day).

      The average life expectancy of Russian men born around 2000 is 60 years ($4.57/day*).

      Data:

      https://istories.media/stories/2023/09/21/ot-povestki-do-pokhoronki/

      https://data.who.int/countries/643#hid-3fc0d

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        $2.74/day

        Jesus Christ, I didn’t expect it to be that bad. That’s Africa shit, and these are the guys that did some of the colonising, rather than being subjected to it.

        Edit: Because it’s not. it works out to more like $15/day, if we trust official numbers. That must be a minimum you’re using or something.

        It varies massively by region, though, because some of those colonies are still inside.

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      60k per year works out to about 164 per day, no matter when you die.

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        That’s okay buddy, Wilshire understood the question and already answered it

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    Get the money up front.

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      They’ll be getting maimed “up front”. No need for money then.

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    Might as well, don’t have to pay out if they die, go MIA

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    I’m a billionaire, just because I say it doesn’t mean it is true lmao

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