• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      3 years ago

      As I’ve explained, there is little reason to believe that NATO provides any added protection in practice and creates a situation where Russia has a reason to attack Finland or Sweden where previously they did not have one. If that makes you feel safer then what else is there to say.

      Other European countries don’t have militaries that are in any way comparable to Russia or even to Ukraine, and article 5 does not oblige them to help militarily. The level of aid provided to Ukraine is above and beyond of what article 5 requires. Thinking that Finland would get more aid than Ukraine received is not based on any facts I’m aware of.

      Russian army was never in a position to take Kiev. The fact that you think that further demonstrates how utterly ignorant you are on the subject you continue to attempt debating. Simple math shows that Russia could not take Kiev with 40k troops because that was roughly the amount of troops Ukraine had stationed in Kiev and you need three to one advantage for the attackers. Russia is clearly aware of that since they used this formula in Mariupol. What Russia did in Kiev was a fixing operation that prevented forces stationed there from reinforcing forces in the east that are currently being surrounded.

      Again, I’m not looking at Russia’s interests. I’m explaining you sober reality of the situation. When Ukraine was neutral, Russia had a working relationship with Ukraine. Hostilities started after 2014 coup that was orchestrated by US. Now, Finland and Sweden are putting themselves in a similar situation. Good luck with that.

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          3 years ago

          I’m not pretending to be anything. This is what actual military experts say. I’m providing you views that are on the side of reality. I’m sorry reality offends you.

          Hilarious how the guy who said that NATO is a defensive alliance that never invades anybody accuses others of trolling. You’ve shown yourself for the 🤡 that you are here.

          You’ve consistently shown yourself to be an ignoramus and a liar, perhaps you should take your own advice.

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                  3 years ago

                  We both know that you wrote utter nonsense in this thread, and I caught you lying repeatedly. You know this and I know this.

                  You keep calling me a troll, but you don’t even have the basic honesty to stand by what you wrote. 🤡

                  I absolutely love how you think you’re being clever here.

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              3 years ago

              Feel free to provide views from military experts who disagree. I’m trying to imagine the intellect one would need to have to think that you could get paid to troll on a tiny niche site. 🤡