• qarbone@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Any, uh…context for that “a child vampire with a woman’s mind and an angel’s face” bit? Or just the gross Lolita nonsense on its face?

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      5 months ago

      Pretty sure it’s a reference to a character in the first book of the Interview with a Vampire series. Lestat’s partner struggles with his remaining humanity, and can’t allow a little girl to die in some historical fire in New Orleans, so he turns her. This also gives them both fulfillment in terms of a child to raise, until the child becomes a willful young adult stuck in a prepubescent body.

      Thankfully she’s nobody’s victim, she is a coldhearted little murder machine. On its face it doesn’t read like creepy pedo material, but it is awkward as hell. Probably intentionally so.

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        5 months ago

        I think it’s absolutely intentional. It feels like it’s written by and targetted towards people who are viscerally repulsed by pedophilia.

        It’s creating a situation that feels like absolute horror, and using that revulsion to help sell the horror. This centuries old mind, trapped in a child’s body, unable to properly experience things like sexually and romance, continually on the outside of everything, treated like a child despite her age and abilities…

        If I remember correctly, she ends up being this extremely bitter murdering monstrosity, out of rage and spite over her existence. Despite her angelic, innocent face, she’s the most evil of the lot. Partly because she doesn’t even have the option of interacting with humans properly, and even most vampires treat her poorly.

        And all because a character had a moment of moral panic, of pity for a poor child. A desire to do the right thing.

        It’s awful. And it’s supposed to be.

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          5 months ago

          That sounds about appropriate for the situation. Too many works brush it off as “ha, they look young but not young”.

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      5 months ago

      “Centuries old mind stuck in child vampire body is actually a killing machine and the whole situation is deeply uncomfortable for everyone involved” is the context. Not anime loli bullshit.

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          5 months ago

          Well, it’s still Anne Rice.

          But as far as I remember, one tries to fuck Claudia. In fact, I think Louis explicitly stated it was fucked up and not happening when she tried to come onto him. Which is much better than most “My Little Sister Is Too Cute” shit (yes that’s an actual anime)

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        5 months ago

        The others were actual answers so they’re cool. But your response is almost a non-sequitur.

        Have you structured all the media you consume so that all themes stay consistent to a single genre? Ok, all the vampires go in horror, but do the werewolves go in horror too?

        You’ll have to fight fantasy hard for that one.

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          5 months ago

          What? Yes, they go in horror fantasy, as neither of them exist in reality. The point is Interview with a Vampire explores disturbing themes. Because it’s a horror story.

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            5 months ago

            Ah, horror fantasy! You’re saying that we can mix and combine genres!

            Hmm, are there rules to these combinations? Or can you just mix any of them together both willy and nilly?

            Could you combine, say, vampires from the “horror” camp and ill-fated relationships from team “romance” like some literal, literary Romeo & Juliet? Would that not be a “Twilight”? Or would that be more “romance” than “horror”?