• AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    7 months ago

    Lol no thats not why they get offended. If you tell a cis person “they are trans” that means they look like the other gender. Its the same as misgendering a trans person but with a few extra steps. Also maybe they are attacking you because this is harassment…

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      7 months ago

      But why would that offend if you constantly tell people there’s no difference tran women and cis women. If you told a trans person you didn’t believe they were trans they would probably take it as a compliment.

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        7 months ago

        Trans people don’t tend to take that as a compliment since it implies trans people don’t usually pass and can be easily clocked most of the time

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          Counterpoint: It’s just not harassment.

          “In general, civil harassment is abuse, threats of abuse, stalking, sexual assault, or serious harassment by someone you have not dated and do NOT have a close family relationship with, like a neighbor, a roommate, or a friend (that you have never dated).”

          https://www.courts.ca.gov/1258.htm

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            If we are to interpret explainer text meant to inform the public as word of law such as you have:

            The civil harassment laws say “harassment” is:

            • Unlawful violence, like assault or battery or stalking, OR
            • A credible threat of violence, AND
            • The violence or threats seriously scare, annoy, or harass someone and there is no valid reason for it.

            The actions described in the green text could be interpreted as a credible threat of violence that is seriously annoying/scaring the individual, as they specifically mention how brave it is for trans people to show themselves in public, when the victim has never initiated the discussion or topic and has made clear both that they do not qualify for the classification and are uncomfortable with the label. This, by your logic, would make it civil harassment.

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              7 months ago

              You know what else could be considered a threat of violence? Literally anything by your standard.

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    7 months ago

    That’s just meta-misgendering and talking over women. No kidding they treat you like an asshole. That’s not a contradiction; you’re just being an asshole.

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    Reminds me of the time I was at a trans camp as a young cis gay ally. A woman walks up to me and says, “since when have you been transitioning?” and I scoffed at the thought of assuming anything about anyone, especially at an LGBT+ camp. She thought I was scoffing at being confused for a trans guy. We didn’t speak for the rest of the event because she thought I was being weird. 🤷‍♂️

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    Eh, i cackled. If someone tried that on me there’d be zero personal offence because i don’t see being trans as bad.

    i’d probably get a bit pissy at the thought you can ‘clock’ a trans person, or because telling a trans person they’re ‘passing’ is very very problematic, but at someone thinking i’m trans? Yeah that’s not an insult to me.

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    this is a 2 yo 4chan copypasta ( why did i even engage with this. it didn’t even happen. ) I guess we are bored at different times of the day