• DarkGamer@kbin.social
    1141·
    9 months ago

    In a world where most must sell their time for money to survive, free time is true luxury.

    • Zink@programming.dev
      17·
      9 months ago

      And some contemptible people who have more free time and resources than they know that do to with - they must focus all efforts on acquiring more resources AND making it harder for others to catch up.

      It would be reason to pity the emptiness of some lives, were they not so destructive.

      • I am not talking about people that find their work or their career fulfilling and keep working hard at it. That’s different than a billionaire who spends millions every year to bust unions and prevent raises to the minimum wage. (Or assassinate whistle blowers, as the case may be)
  • lugal
    812·
    9 months ago

    I don’t disagree, just a quite reminder that not everyone can afford this. The meme doesn’t say it but it gives “money doesn’t buy happiness” vibes and while this isn’t false, a certain amount of money is required for this.

    • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
      55·
      9 months ago

      Maybe I’m misunderstanding the picture, but I thought that’s why they were called luxuries - because not everyone gets to have them. Though they aren’t what we usually associate with a luxurious lifestyle.

      E: just to be clear, everyone should have them, but many are too occupied with the daily battle for survival.

      • lugal
        12·
        9 months ago

        Yes, I read it the same way, that’s why I said that I don’t disagree. Still there is this other reading I wanted to “debunk”

        • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
          6·
          9 months ago

          Re-reading your comment I see that I must have meant to reply to someone else. I apologise, my social media timer sometimes makes me hasty.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
      85·
      9 months ago

      Yeah this is lowkey a boogie meme - the majority of people don’t live in a work situation that allows for day naps!

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          33·
          9 months ago

          We call it expensive, which is a subtlety that the title of this meme poopooing on “consumerism” is missing out on.

          Hence, a boogie meme. Those of us down here in the dirt don’t have time for these luxuries; we consume imitations.

    • Vent@lemm.ee
      1023·
      9 months ago

      How much money does one need for a long walk and listening to birds?

      • lugal
        552·
        9 months ago

        1. Time is money. If you work 2 jobs to provide for your kids alone, good luck finding the time and headspace to not worry about anything.

        2. Parks and forests aren’t evenly distributed. Not everyone can afford living near one or going there.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
        28·
        9 months ago

        In capitalism, one must first pay for basic necessities like food and shelter before anything else. For some people who make low wages this requires an amount of time and effort that interferes with their leisure time.

        That said, there are also some people who think they are in this category when in reality their stress is due to self-imposed standards of living that are higher than necessary. Or anxiety and other psychological problems that could be addressed through non-material strategies.

        • ShareMySims@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          5·
          9 months ago

          there are also some people who think they are in this category when in reality their stress is due to self-imposed standards of living that are higher than necessary. Or anxiety and other psychological problems that could be addressed through non-material strategies.

          also encouraged and exacerbated by capitalism (the former - to create the illusion of a “middle class” for people to aspire to and vote against their own actual material conditions, the latter - by commodifying health care and pathologizing anything that harms “productivity”)

      • humorlessrepost@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        9 months ago

        How much money does one need to not have to choose between spending their evenings on a long walk listening to birds vs delivering pizzas as a third job to avoid eviction?

    • laverabe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      9 months ago

      Why add a symbol that is almost solely used by totalitarian governments?

      The hammer and sickle remains commonplace in self-declared socialist states, such as China, Cuba, North Korea, Laos, and Vietnam, but also some former Soviet republics following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, such as Belarus and Russia.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_and_sickle

      Are there any countries that use the symbol that are actually nice places to live with good governments?

          • Humana@lemmy.world
            3·
            9 months ago

            Yes I’m aware of the history of Angola.

            You asked

            Are there any countries that use the symbol that are actually nice places to live with good governments?

            Angola has made a conscious decision to stick to this symbol as if transitions to a liberal democracy and stable economy. There were some efforts to change the flag recently because as you said it’s often associated with totalitarian regimes. But those efforts failed because to Angolans it symbolizes the Angolan triumph over the colonial oppression of Portugal and resistance to apartheid South African invasion.

            It could change in the future, Angola is still moving towards “good government” and “nice place to live” as you said. But for now it remains their national flag.

            • laverabe@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              9 months ago

              Interesting. That being said I don’t understand the lemmygrad peoples desire for the Hammer and sickle as a symbol. Like almost nothing good has come from it. Even in Angola it seems to be viewed as a somewhat tarnished period in their history.

              • Humana@lemmy.world
                3·
                9 months ago

                I get what you mean, I’m helping to add nuance to the discussion. Also a bunch of white people coming in and telling Angolans what symbols they can and can’t use to represent their triumph over colonialism and apartheid isn’t a great look either.

          • Justinas Dūdėnas@soc.dudenas.lt
            21·
            9 months ago

            @laverabe

            Meaning is also contextual - different cultures put different meaning in symbols. To represent global ideas we need some consensus.

            Baltic neo-pagans were rigtfully culturally suppressed from using swastika as “symbol of Sun”. Hammer and sickle also signifies millions of deaths and decades of repressioms. It is even forbidden in some post soviet countries along with swastika. Lets find something less damaging to represent marxist ideas.

            @Humana

            • Humana@lemmy.world
              1·
              9 months ago

              I don’t believe in these sweeping absolutes. Context and motive are important parts of any equation of what’s “acceptable”.

              • Justinas Dūdėnas@soc.dudenas.lt
                0·
                9 months ago

                @Humana
                I think the only system to believe in here is sensitivity to feelings and histories of others. If you don’t mind triggering literally millions of people whose families were hurt by soviets, it is your choice.
                And wouldn’t you be against public display of swastikas if they are displayed by “neopagans” and supposedly symbolize Sun?

                • Humana@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  Do you ban them from museums? Textbooks? Documentaries? No because they are in an appropriate context. I would never wear or display a swastika and I feel disgusted to see one displayed by anyone with pride. Context and motive matter…

      • irmoz@reddthat.com
        33·
        9 months ago

        I can’t tell if you’re being ignorant or disingenuous. The Ⓐ should be a clue as to my opinion on government in general, no? As for ☭ - check the first sentence of the article you linked. Or the description written under it, for what I meant to invoke.

        I am no USSR apologist. I just consider that symbol useful as a marker for worker solidarity.

        • laverabe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          9 months ago

          I understand what it means, and I support what it is trying to do in theory. The problem is there has never been a government, to my knowledge, that has embraced the ideology that has not turned to corruption/totalitarianism. In these countries, the proletariat are deprived of their rights and fare far worse. That is what the hammer and sickle represents.

          I’m happy to change my mind if an example can prove otherwise, but to my knowledge the most effective form of government is that of a social democracy, which is represented by a red rose.

          • irmoz@reddthat.com
            21·
            9 months ago

            I’m not talking about any governments.

            Like I already told you:

            The hammer and sickle (Unicode: U+262D ☭ ) is a communist symbol representing proletarian solidarity between agricultural and industrial workers.

            This sentence is the entire and only reason I used that symbol. You have zero reason to continue to ask me for “good governments using this symbol”. It is not a symbol of government. Communism is stateless, ergo no government. Just like anarchism.

            You’re trolling. Fuck off.

            • laverabe@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              9 months ago

              Nice civility

              The swastika is thus understood to be a symbol of auspiciousness and good fortune

              Symbols can have meanings that are different than what they turn into. Hammer and sickle is almost unanimously considered to be a symbol of Stalin USSR totalitarian communism where millions perished.

              • irmoz@reddthat.com
                2·
                9 months ago

                The swastika is thus understood to be a symbol of auspiciousness and good fortune

                The Hindu one is, yes.

                Symbols can have meanings that are different than what they turn into.

                Not denying that.

                Hammer and sickle is almost unanimously considered to be a symbol of Stalin USSR totalitarian communism where millions perished.

                Only to people ignorant of what communism actually means.

    • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world
      32·
      9 months ago

      But do you understand how much money you can make if you make them paid Add-ons or subscription based?!?! Think of the money! Think of the riches!

    • blujan
      62·
      9 months ago

      We have made it so that having the freedom to choose, a most basic human need, feels like doing incorrect stuff.

      Like, just choosing to leave a relationship subjects you to so much pain and hate that you’d rather not do it.

      It sucks, but sadly a lot of these things are luxuries. Some are getting better but others worse (for example, there are less birds now than in the past, or at least it seems that way).

    • tbs9000@lemmy.world
      12·
      9 months ago

      This. Especially in modern first-world nations. There are plenty of resources for the wealthy to still be wealthy and everyone to have at least economic security.

  • qaz@lemmy.world
    32·
    9 months ago

    mornigs

    Are other people just ignoring this or am I the only person who is distracted by this?

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
      13·
      9 months ago

      Yeah I think it’s been found that there is a sweet spot for income and happiness. Having billions of dollars won’t make you any happier, but I think it’s something around $120K per year that provides everything needed to have a happy life without having to stress much about paying the bills.

      Unfortunately the vast majority of people fall way below the level of income needed that’s necessary to be able to have a stress free long walk and a good conversation that’s not about how to make ends meet, etc.

    • tygerprints@kbin.social
      2·
      9 months ago

      Yeah, truth. Nobody has complete freedom in a world of other people. I don’t get to run around being an ax murderer, for example (not that I want to be). There are plenty of guardrails and rules and laws, many for good reason.

  • Zacryon@feddit.de
    20·
    9 months ago

    I’m on the fence about hearings birds singing. It is really annoying to get woken up way too early by a bird who just knows two tunes and sings it over and over and over again. Like what the fuck?! Didn’t they teach you a third tune at bird school to make your song a bit more melodic and less irritating? Fucking twitter.

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      9 months ago

      There’s this big male cardinal who lives in my rhododendron. He’s not the problem. The problem are the loud, brash younglings who show up and try to muscle in on his territory. They start before dawn, screaming at the top of a tree, making up for their lack of style with sheer volume.

      Plus they sound like fucking car alarms. The Big Boy has a gorgeous call, and perches on the fence between the houses to take advantage of the acoustics, and starts at least an hour after dawn because no lady wants to be woken up early by a fuckboy.

      He must be back early this year because there’s only been one asshole bird who woke me up.

    • thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee
      3·
      9 months ago

      The birds here are really confused lately and have just been singing all night without a break, it’s driving me crazy.

    • DingoBilly@lemmy.world
      108·
      9 months ago

      I didn’t realize I needed money to sleep well… Or to have a slow morning… Or to listen to birds sing?

      Even in third world countries you’d have this…

      • DillyDaily@lemmy.world
        22·
        9 months ago

        Hard to have a slow morning and day naps when you’re rushing between two jobs because you don’t have money.

        If you had money, you could be more selective in finding work that provided the balance and flexibility needed to appreciate the things in life that are free.

        But all of these things are too expensive when you’re time-poor, and most people are time poor because they’re desperately trying to avoid being financially poor.

        • DingoBilly@lemmy.world
          310·
          9 months ago

          We’re talking about a very small amount of people who have to work multiple jobs 7 days a week, with many more poor people who don’t do that.

          And you didn’t cover the birds singing, which you can do pretty much any place…

          • DillyDaily@lemmy.world
            14·
            9 months ago

            I think you’re underestimating how much labour the global poor perform in a 24 hour period, 7 days a week.

            But yes, many of these things can be possible if you prioritise them for your mental health, my point is just that it’s not always easy to prioritise mental health when you’re focused on physical survival.

            But obviously, if you can include these things in your routine, you absolutely should, there are virtually no downsides.

            • DingoBilly@lemmy.world
              12·
              9 months ago

              I don’t think I am actually.

              I think it’s almost impossible to miss every single one of these all the time. I have worked with the extremely poor, and watched documentaries of people in third world countries regularly. Most people even those who are literal third world slaves (indebted for life) can still regularly enjoy at least 2 of these things regularly.

              I’m not saying it’s not shit and that ideally everyone should experience all of them, but it’s unrealistically cynical and nihilistic to think everyone poor is just miserable and doesn’t enjoy anything.

          • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            3·
            9 months ago

            My god you are clueless. Have you moved out of your parent’s home yet? I’m just curious where you are in your life? If you moved, were you given a stable and well funded childhood? I’m just trying to understand the disconnect.

            • DingoBilly@lemmy.world
              12·
              9 months ago

              Yeah I’ve lived out of home for close to 2 decades.

              I think people here are being extremely dramatic if they say they never are able to sleep in or never have a chance to hear birds singing though, or to watch a sunset. That is absolute hyperbolic bullshit.

              Unless this post is about doing it every day (which it isn’t), then everyone gets to enjoy these luxuries at least semi-regularly.

      • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
        18·
        9 months ago

        A lot of people cannot get a good night of sleep because they have to wake up super fucking early in order to arrive at their work on time. A number of them might then go from work straight to classes (like a cheap college-level graduation, in hopes of getting a better paying job sometime in the future), so by the time they get home, their free time is spent caring for the home and prepping for tomorrow. Even those that have “free nights” may not end up spending that time for leisure

        Birds singing are rare in big cities. You know, the so called concrete jungles? They’ll have a number of pigeons and sparrows, but depending on the city, the lack of trees means that’s the only 2 kinds of birds you’ll see or hear, period.

        • DingoBilly@lemmy.world
          3·
          9 months ago

          People are missing the forest for the trees. These are luxuries yes, but missing every single one of them is an extreme poverty of life as it’d be extremely hard to do.