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Also doubles as a kill list for when they decide it’s time.
I’m pretty sure they just decided.
Welcome to the primary purpose
This is exactly what the nazis did when they invaded multiple countries. Found the registries of Jews and you know the rest.
Utterly absurd levels of paranoia on display in this comment.
Welcome back! I’m sure you have a lot to catch up on after being in a coma or whatever. Number 1, an angry mob tried to kill the vice president and 12 million people think they were right to do it and it’s a shame they didn’t succeed.
To be fair, if you killed all your politicians maybe America would be a better place.
To be fair, if you killed all your
politiciansbillionaires maybe America would be a better place.FTFY
¿Por qué no los dos?
Billionaires can only become billionaires by forced monopolies and lobbying. Remove the politicians who are being bribed and replace them with normal people. No more billionaires.
Why not both?
Are you aware what usually happens in countries where they start killing politicians? Like historically in actuality, not just the “how it plays out in the original plan” way?
You clearly don’t know the Christian Nationalists I know. Let me ask you something, only for true believers. If you really truly believed in your heart that God was calling you to kill in his name, would you do it?
It’s mind boggling that there are people who think God couldn’t come up with a better solution than murder. I mean a micrometeorite could take anyone of us out at any point. Or he could wait for us to yawn and have a murder hornet fly into your mouth. Or y’know, being God and all and capable of doing anything, he could just have his giant disembodied hand come out of the wall, grab us and pull us to the other side, a la Legend of Zelda and that’s just if he insists on making it a spectacule and not just snap* aneurysm.
I don’t believe in God.
Then do you have some context to understand what I’m asking? Because I know my share of Christians that either get uncomfortably quiet with that question or very confidently answer yes.
Boy, I wish. Speaking as someone who knows these people, no. This is exactly what they want to do.
You’re one of the lucky 10000 today. Read up on Jewish registrations in the Netherlands.
🤡
There was a Masto post recently where someone’s conservative mother told her that she knows being gay is a choice, because she feel attraction to girls, but she chooses not to act on it, and that’s the responsible Christian thing to do or w/e.
It legit made me all of a sudden realize why there’s so much overlap between “we have to punish the gays and make it illegal” and “I secretly go to male prostitutes all the time” in Republican circles. It just all of a sudden harmonized and clicked into place and made perfect sense.
Many that think being gay is a choice, are in fact bisexual themselves. So for them it’s a choice on whether or not to act on it. And they project that everyone else is the same.
And even then it’s not really a choice, since you can’t really choose to stop having feelings. I guess that for bi people it’s easier to pretend, but where there’s love, there’s love.
It’s like, being a hetero dude and vlbeing forced to go with a girl when there’s another one you love. It’s hard in any case.
People tend to project themselves on other people. We all do it, and it can be shocking to find how different people actually are from each other. I’ve heard all my life from certain Christians that people who are atheist have no moral compass and there’s nothing stopping them from killing and raping people. Which I find revealing, because they are saying their beliefs are the only thing stopping them from doing those things. I have never once wanted to rape or kill anyone, maybe that’s why it’s easy for me to not believe in god.
That about the moral compass, and telling you that you cannot be happy without Jesus in your life are crocks of manure I know plenty of non-christians that live extremely happy and are much Kore decent than most of the Christians I know, including myself. In the same subject, I know plenty of Christians whose demeanor wouldbhave satanists praying for them since they could be worse people. And religions? Biggest issue in the world, bar none. Having faith is one thing, I have faith. I do NOT follow religion. Religions are full of dogmasbthat you are supposed to follow without question. Religion is what has Gaza busted the way it is.
It’s projection every time with conservatives. They hate you because they think you’re as shitty as they are.
Top tear post.
Made me cry too
As a Christian: this is absolutely despicable. Jesus taught us to love our neighbors, and a huge part of loving someone is to respect their boundaries.
So screw this app and the people that built it. If you want to invite your neighbors to learn about Jesus:
- Set a good example
- Get to know them
- Invite only when it’s relevant (i.e. to a kid’s baptism or whatever)
If they want to learn about Jesus, they’ll ask.
As an atheist, I wish there were more Christians like you.
There are millions of them. You wouldn’t know it though, because they don’t announce themselves.
Yeah. I’m not religious but I’ve worked with church groups and actually every one I can think of immediately, was out for good and doing Christ things. I think the more prejudicial ones just are more vocal about what they’re doing.
If I were the devil and this world was mine to see Well, I’d witness all the atrocities and it’d probably frighten me So I’d run back home with a story to tell I’d tell all my demon friends that I always preferred Hell — Colby Acuff
One of the existential terrors of deconstruction is realizing the human species is plenty capable of evil and atrocity, that no demons are needed
Then when we’ve seen the absolute worst humans could imagine, Sir David Attenborough comes along holding Nature’s beer.
Every concept of hell and the details on what earns you a spot there I have always translated to “hell on earth.”
As in: the things someone would do to earn them a spot in hell creates hell on earth. There is no hell other than the hell people create for us here.
Good Christians leave because they realize who are in power and what corrupt shit have been going on
As an atheist, I wish there were less Christians and more demons
As a metalhead, same.
Honestly people US would move naturally to Christianity if the church as a welcoming nonjudgmental place.
People don’t need to be Evangelicalized. I think there are some lessons the all White Churches could learn from the historically black Church.
As an ex-christian, the most un-christlike behavior is often espoused by Christians.
As the saying goes: one bad apple spoils the barrel.
I think most Christians are fine, at least the Christians who understand and try to follow Christ’s teachings, it’s just the few “Christian influencers” or whatever that are a pox on society. I try to distance myself from them as much as possible, and encourage the rest to be better examples.
Well, militants are always annoying, be they Christian, lefties, Righties, vegans, meat eaters or whatever
It’s because they craft their entire identity around that particular thing. It does not matter what the belief or how illogical the belief, if you question it, or are simply not prepared to go along with it, they get really angry and incoherent.
I mean I know people who are vegan or religious or atheist which are not annoying, but as you said some people make it a huge part of their identity and it sucks.
That’s exactly right. Most of them have no capacity for critical thinking whatsoever.
Hence their being religious.
That would be an accurate assessment, yes.
I feel called out as a Linux user
I somewhat agree with you. The problem is that all those bad apples are the loudest of the bunch, which is why people, understandably, try to avoid all Christians like the plague. I did too for MANY years, until I was the target of a miracle myself. But that didn’t change my behavior towards people, I still treat EVERYONE with respect, and as kindly as I am able to (sorry, still human, so not always possible, lol).
The same is true with Muslims as well. A lot of people in the west dislike Muslims generally because of the relatively small percentage of extremists, yet the Muslims I work with are fantastic people. My coworker (Christian, I believe) married an Iranian woman (Muslim), and said the people in Iran are generally quite awesome, it’s just the minority who is in power that causes the problems.
In general, most people are pretty chill, regardless of religion (or lack thereof). So please, if you feel like a stereotype is accurate, go out and meet people from that demographic in real life (not on SM), and you’ll likely realize most people are good. It doesn’t really matter what the demographic and stereotype are, most people don’t fit it.
I have a bunch of friends, coworkers, employees and business associates that are Muslim. Some live in my country, some in the US, Egypt, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Irak, all over the place, and all of them, without exception, are amazing people, super humble, can take jokes, even about religion, and are incredibly respectful of everyone else regardless of any perceived difference. My family and I went to the New York side of the Niagar Falls for New Year of 2019, where we know absolutely nobody. When we got to the AirBNB late at night, my wife and I went out to buy some water, some food for breakfast the next day, and everything was closed. We found a small store that was open and when we walked in we were greeted by this guy originally from Iran, Muslim. We started talking like we were friends for years. Before he left he offered to make us dinner the following night. I’m Dominican, and I have yet to meet someone as nice and outgoing as this guy and his family. We met almost every day for the 2 weeks we spent there, and I am grateful that I met them. We had an amazing time. I’m sure there are some nasty people out there, just like there’s a bunch of nasty people everywhere and from all walks of life. Bottom line is that we can’t tell who is who just by race, religion, nationality or any of those things. Take the time to know the person, more times than not, you’ll be grateful you did. I’m sorry, I’m feeling really hyped with this thread. You guys have restored some of my lost faith in humanity. Thank you very much.
Thank you. I thought I was alone in the world, haha!
At the very least they should target people who consider themselves Christian but have stopped going to Church for one reason or another.
Although to be fair many of the more “dedicated” Churches function more like a cult
I don’t think they should “target” anyone. The entire basis for this app is creepy at best, and it shouldn’t exist in this form. If people want a way to discuss things, they should instead share anonymous experiences.
But yeah, there are a lot of weird, culty “churches” out there, where I suspect the leadership is knowingly manipulating their congregations. But there ale also a lot of accusations of culty behavior that really aren’t applicable, so it’s a mixed bag. At the end of the day, I think most people are decent, regardless of religion, it’s just the really vocal minority (the brainwashed minority, as well as those who left) that make the most noise.
That is absolutely terrifying.
If I made a least of where all the Christians live, they’d rightfully freak the fuck out.
they’ve done it for you by accident
It would be a real shame if people started leaving reviews on the play store with their concerns. Real shame i tell you, its sitting at a 4.7 rating with all but 1 five star, and they gave it a four star.
Anyways for any god loving Christian who just wants to download their app to pray for their neighbors, ive taken the ten seconds needed to visit their site and grabbed their app links.
Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blesseveryhome.bealight
Apple https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bless-every-home/id1541313484
While I’d love to add my opinion to the Play Store reviews, there’s no way in Hell I’m installing some kind of Christofascist malware on any device that I control.
Virtual machine and a burner gmail account lol
Install waydroid, install the app, give it a bad rating, uninstall
Was not aware of Waydroid, thanks for the link.
Downloaded, used an empty home for the address, selected The Satanic Temple as my church, deleted the app, and gave it one star. Took 5 minutes.
I don’t have play store on my phone anymore 😭
That’s probably a good thing, though.
Yeah, I run Graphene OS. I have play store and play services for apps that need it, but theres no Google account on my phone and those apps are installed as normal apps (not elevated perms) and are also sandboxed
Smart move. Ibgotbrid of that about 2 years ago. My battery has never lasted this long before that 🤣🤣
This definitely shouldn’t be the top comment. Don’t cross-post it to other communities who prefer that christofascists don’t harass and dox immigrants and any non-christians they hate (see: most genders).
Noooooo sir.
And definitely don’t report it as “Hateful or abusive” content or anything, it’s not like Google or Apple is using automated algorithms to auto disable apps for a period of time after certain thresholds of reports are hit or anything like that
Join an ever-growing community of Christ followers who are devoted to being a Light in neighborhoods through praying for, caring for, sharing the gospel with, and discipling homes.
Holy shit
Oh wait it says discipling not disciplining. Not quite as holy shit worthy.
I’m doing my part!
Welp, time to create the reverse app and tag houses that are religious.
Do what you want with that information.
Nah, just wait for the inevitable data dump because they won’t pay for competent security, and invert the data. No need to get the data yourself when they’re pretty much doing it for you!
Do you mean a surprise distributed data backup?
(referencing a recent meme on !programmerhumor)
Got a link that sounds hilarious
Just check all the account addresses
Maybe the Jewish population could start a protest in front of there Church
The church is an organization that preys on people using their fear of death.
Hinduism is a religion that preys on people’s fear of not really dying at all.
oof. Never noticed that about reincarnation. What could be worse than dying? Being brought back to suffer more.
interesting
These lunatics have a disturbing amount of control in the US government.
Laughing at them might be fun, and I was doing it until recently, but they’re not joking. The worse our climate disasters become – and they will very soon – the more scared people will become, and the more these groups will take advantage of that fear. We’ll see more climate refugees, more desperation, and more fear. These groups prey on fear, and they’ll amplify it on purpose.
True fascism thrives on fear, which is why these people amplify it like they do. When climate disasters accelerate, these groups will harness the social upheaval to take control. I don’t know what we can do to stop it, but we should all be thinking about and sharing ways to head it off, because they’ve got plans in place already.
I know I sound paranoid, but I’ve been watching them and these aren’t my ideas, but theirs. They talk about this a lot, and if we aren’t prepared, their plans could actually work. I don’t want to live in the fascist future they’re planning. If we don’t combat it, we’ll be living in the Handmaid’s Tale before most of us realise.
OK, does this title end abruptly or am I just really high?
“WE MUST CONDUCT DOOR, COMRADE.”
ALL ABOARD!
they heard as the conduct door took one last look at the platform.
Both!
I’m in no position to deny this.
Lemmy has a different title length limit than Mbin, as I just now discovered. I kinda like the modified version though. 🙂
This is a yikes, they’re doing the Westboro Church tactics without wanting the money, just to harass.
The Mapping Center for Evangelism and Church Growth’s founder and president Chris Cooper suggests using the app to conduct neighborly activities such as putting on a barbecue for potential converts, but scattered throughout the app’s training and promotional videos are suggestions to undertake the controversial practice of “prayerwalking.” An idea becoming increasingly popular among Christian supremacist groups, prayerwalking involves believers flooding so-called “un-Christian” territories in order to combat “demonic strongholds.” In practice, it varies from blessing new neighbors to gathering groups to pray in front of everything from mosques to drag bars in service of “spiritual warfare.”
And how long until this app gets tied to several mass shootings and a spate of burning crosses?
“It was a deeply disturbed lone wolf. It’s unfortunate, but there’s nothing we can do. Thoughts and prayers.”
“By the way we added a new feature! Now you can filter by…”
I’ll give it about a week.
Wait till they start using that same data to harass and target.
I mean that’s exactly where we are headed in the US.
Project2025 in part wants to institute laws against blasphemy… They quite literally want to make the united states a theocracy, absolutely no fucking exaggeration here. It’s literally what they want.
Serious question: Any source on that?
I’m at work so I can’t dig for something better, but this was posted yesterday so it was a quick pull from my browser history.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/christian-nationalism-trump-republicans/
Edit: don’t be dumb guys, don’t downvote them for simply asking for proof of a claim I made without evidence lol
Thanks for the link! And thanks, people down vote too fast when people ask questions. I wasn’t even asking for proof, I was just curious and wanted to read more
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
Read the “Christian Nationalism” section.
Isn’t that what they have always done
Never this efficiently and from such few tracks.
Can I use it to find like minded individuals?
No, they are not in the dataset.
JFC, I installed the app and added “my address” and immediately was given a list of names and addresses to “pray for”.
How am I supposed to pray for so many people!? What am I, an ATM?! Gelatians 4:20:69 had nothing to do with Gelato!1! This is getting 1 star and reported on the app store.
Dude, that’s beyond creepy. I know of 1 christian that will certainly never install that thing. Not that I can right now, since I have absolutely no Google or Apple store at my disposal. #degoogled all the way.
You know what they say, good Christians are ATMs
What the FUCK
For some reason it didn’t sink in to me from reading the article how weird and sinister this is
Literal names and addresses. Unbelievable.
Can you filter it to only immigrants? How flexible is the display of people’s names and addresses, family vs no kids, young or old, things like that?
Uninstalled already. It was pushy about asking for my church address so they could contact them to promote the app.
Got it. I’m just gonna go back to assuming the worst.
This is terrifying. Thank fuck I’m not in the US. I already get anxious when some random knocks on my door. If they started spouting off about praying for me and my family I’d be weirded right the fuck out.
Granted, I love my physical privacy. I generally don’t answer the door to plain cloths unless I’m expecting someone. My 5 year goal is to move outside of my current town and have no neighbours. Preferably with a nice long driveway that I may install a gate on at the road.
Your physical is quite nice.
Thanks, I get quietly called brave a lot for it at the beach!
So did you pass? (Your physical)
Lol clean as a whistle
This is concerning. I don’t want some stranger knowing personal details about me before I even know they exist
I’ve received letters twice from the same individual who belongs to a JW church. The first was when they moved into the area, and the second was when I moved to another place.
Your property ownership records (if you’re American) are public records, and if you grab it within like, 3 years (where I live), you can even find the closing price and more detailed information on the sale.
Demand better privacy laws.
We really must find a way to purge our collective selves of the scourge of religion.
I wish it was never invented in the first place. I would much rather have a world where we argue over which scientific theory, or whatever, is right—rather than the one we have now, where a majority argue about whose ‘flying spaghetti monster,’ unseen for centuries (if ever), is better and why it trumps even the most solidly proven scientific facts.
Religion is a mental disorder.
Absolutely correct.
Scientific theory doesn’t tell you to love your neighbor nor does it give you strength. Religion is important no matter the specific beliefs.
You don’t need to be Muslim or Jewish yourself but you could at least try to be respectful. We don’t need any more hate in the world.
Scientific theory doesn’t tell you to love your neighbor
It doesn’t and religion shouldn’t need to, in fact if the only thing making you a general good person is a religion, then you’re not a good person. Morals and personal strength can and should be derived from other sources.
We don’t need any more hate in the world.
Religion is directly responsible for the bulk of the hate, in case you haven’t looked at the world around you. How many wars were started in the name of a religion? Whole groups of people are being discriminated against because of religion right now. There’s a war right now because of religion. X religion people hate Y religion people just because they believe in a slightly different flying spaghetti monster. Countless lives throughout history have been lost in the name of x or y religion.
A world without religion would still have hate, crime and greed because humans are humans, but it would be so much better than currently.
As it turns out, the vast majority or “religion” is completely harmless and is kept personal. The problem is the 1% who are constantly the target of bad PR (for good reason)
What are you saying? Are you advocating mass arrests? Good luck finding every Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and all other beliefs. Your statement seems overly broad.
Ah, yes. No religious wars and discrimination, no raped children, no mutilated babies, no subjugation. Religion is all fucking sunshine and chipmunks.
No maximally-cruel executions for free-thinking (allegedly having or expression thoughts, or doing deeds, contrary to those mandated by some religion). Burning at the stake, totally fake, yeah.