iOS isn’t private, not more than Android, apart it’s closed source and “makemoney-soft” like all from Apple, incompatible with everything, except Apple soft. Apple is a nightmare for free and independent devs.
Lineage isn’t a big company, its a community project, But if you don’t like it, as you can see in AlternativeTo, there are a lot of others.
FOSS naturally isn’t neccesary also private and secure (Android itself is FOSS), but Lineage or KDE are at least better in this point than a OS made and controlled by Google, offering good and trustworth products. Use an OS produced in the EU, because of the strong privacy norms, which don’t exist in US products (KDE is German)
If not, dont use a smartphone and use an old Nokia 3300.
A community project which can get infiltrated especially positioned as secured/privacy oriented device.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not bashing or trying diminishing a FOSS but we should really strive to demonstrate our claims and as someone who built its own lineage image 2 years ago, I would not blindly sign repeat the slogan.
And yeah, I used a Nokia 220 for a while during 2021.
Actually, I use my iPhone (refurbished) - beside call/IM of course - just as an expensive 2FA device my the bank/administration/customers.
I do not recommend anyone, regardless of the OS, to use the smartphone for official procedures, like bamking, no smartphone is a secure device, much less so than a PC, where you have many more protection options available.
@SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml I’m not saying I trust Apple, but there are legal obligations. It might help you when fighting with insurances if anything bad happens.
If anything bad happens, the OS isn’t a problem, if it is a legit one. The problem with mobile phones is other, thr isk to include in it important data, because of the facility that have hackers to acceede this data (in a contest hackers needed less than 30 seconds in a IPhone, using a laptop with certain software., apart of the risk of loss or theft.
As in the recent past, Merkel’s cell phone, supposedly especially secure, as befits a German chancellor, was hacked and confidential data leaked.
Even more risk if you use OS from big US companies that make money selling data to third parties. (surveillance advertising, 21st century plague, you don’t know or controll how this third parties threat and protect your data, os sell these to others more)
You are putting the chancellor’s iPhone hack at the same level than these script-kiddie or Nigerian scams :)
scamers usually needs user interaction and it doesn’t go further than asking the user to fill in a form online. no trojan, no malware - especially on iOS.
I would totally love a free&opensource smartphone with something tight, not androified and which can be reproducible and getting regular audit.
I don’t refer to script kiddies or Nigerian scams, but even a script kiddie have the possibility to hack a phone, as seen in the past. Also several databreaches with hundreds of thousands of sensitive data, including bank and medcal data, which were leaked in the past from Apple, MS, FB and Google, show what I say, mobile phones are far from being secure devices, especially if they are of large companies that look more at their own income than at the security and privacy of the user.
At least, I don’t have any important data in my phone and I recommended everyon to do the same.
If it is a workphone from you work, it’s different, than the risk is for the company, no yours, because of this, most use the kiosk mode, which with you can connect only to the sites admitted by the company.
There are several other alternatives, most known f.Exmpl LineageOS, it’s a OpenSource and de-googled Android fork. More here https://alternativeto.net/software/android/?license=opensource
iOS isn’t private, not more than Android, apart it’s closed source and “makemoney-soft” like all from Apple, incompatible with everything, except Apple soft. Apple is a nightmare for free and independent devs.
I can’t trust LineageOS. Who is auditing this ? And it can’t even be reasonably audited anyway, check just the repo size.
We could say this from most of big FOSS project unfortunately, except maybe some with reproducible build.
Lineage isn’t a big company, its a community project, But if you don’t like it, as you can see in AlternativeTo, there are a lot of others. FOSS naturally isn’t neccesary also private and secure (Android itself is FOSS), but Lineage or KDE are at least better in this point than a OS made and controlled by Google, offering good and trustworth products. Use an OS produced in the EU, because of the strong privacy norms, which don’t exist in US products (KDE is German) If not, dont use a smartphone and use an old Nokia 3300.
A community project which can get infiltrated especially positioned as secured/privacy oriented device. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not bashing or trying diminishing a FOSS but we should really strive to demonstrate our claims and as someone who built its own lineage image 2 years ago, I would not blindly sign repeat the slogan.
And yeah, I used a Nokia 220 for a while during 2021. Actually, I use my iPhone (refurbished) - beside call/IM of course - just as an expensive 2FA device my the bank/administration/customers.
I do not recommend anyone, regardless of the OS, to use the smartphone for official procedures, like bamking, no smartphone is a secure device, much less so than a PC, where you have many more protection options available.
I use it mostly stock in term of 3rd party apps.
@SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml I’m not saying I trust Apple, but there are legal obligations. It might help you when fighting with insurances if anything bad happens.
If anything bad happens, the OS isn’t a problem, if it is a legit one. The problem with mobile phones is other, thr isk to include in it important data, because of the facility that have hackers to acceede this data (in a contest hackers needed less than 30 seconds in a IPhone, using a laptop with certain software., apart of the risk of loss or theft. As in the recent past, Merkel’s cell phone, supposedly especially secure, as befits a German chancellor, was hacked and confidential data leaked. Even more risk if you use OS from big US companies that make money selling data to third parties. (surveillance advertising, 21st century plague, you don’t know or controll how this third parties threat and protect your data, os sell these to others more)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/03/16/iphone-12-pro-max-and-iphone-13-not-more-secure-than-google-and-samsung-android-warns-cyber-billionaire/
https://www.techradar.com/news/8-reasons-why-smartphones-are-privacy-nightmare
You are putting the chancellor’s iPhone hack at the same level than these script-kiddie or Nigerian scams :)
scamers usually needs user interaction and it doesn’t go further than asking the user to fill in a form online. no trojan, no malware - especially on iOS.
I would totally love a free&opensource smartphone with something tight, not androified and which can be reproducible and getting regular audit.
I don’t refer to script kiddies or Nigerian scams, but even a script kiddie have the possibility to hack a phone, as seen in the past. Also several databreaches with hundreds of thousands of sensitive data, including bank and medcal data, which were leaked in the past from Apple, MS, FB and Google, show what I say, mobile phones are far from being secure devices, especially if they are of large companies that look more at their own income than at the security and privacy of the user. At least, I don’t have any important data in my phone and I recommended everyon to do the same. If it is a workphone from you work, it’s different, than the risk is for the company, no yours, because of this, most use the kiosk mode, which with you can connect only to the sites admitted by the company.
Are you talking about this while trusting apple?