• @guojing@lemmy.ml
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    -42 years ago

    Donetsk and Lugansk have been de facto independent for 8 years now, since the US-sponsored, fascist coup in Kiev and subsequent genocide against ethnic Russians in Ukraine. And whether you like it or not, the republics are now officially recognized by Russia, and will probably be recognized soon by other countries like China. Western politicians will whine and implement their sanctions, but no one will care.

    • @Liwott@lemmy.ml
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      12 years ago

      Donetsk and Lugansk have been de facto independent for 8 years now

      A fact that was not recognized by Russia until a few hours before sending in its troops.

      • @gun@lemmy.ml
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        02 years ago

        They did not recognize that it was de facto independent? Sure they did. Everyone did. Whether you acknowledge them as de jure independent republics by right is a different question that Russia just answered today.

    • @pingveno@lemmy.mlOP
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      12 years ago

      The “coup” where over a hundred protestors were killed by the government? That’s not a coup, that’s mass protests.

        • The idea that the NATO boogieman is behind popular protests is a common Russian propaganda talking point. NATO is just not sophisticated enough to engineer a mass uprising like the Maidan Revolution. If they had, don’t you think their newly minted puppet government would have “invited” them in already, just like Russia did in Donbas?

        • @pingveno@lemmy.mlOP
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          02 years ago

          Of course I have, but just because things didn’t go your way doesn’t mean it’s a coup.