Very true, but I believe those to be very rare - with quick online search I could not easily find any information about Judaistic or Islamic Satan worshippers
That could be simply because I’m limited to English speaking parts of internet though, and those parts are overwhelmingly atheistic or christian
When you say “Satanists do not believe in Satan”, you’re probably referring to the atheistic branch. In reality, there are theistic branches as well (i.e. Satan as a literal entity and/or deity, see, for example, “Temple of Set”).
I can personally exemplify with Luciferianism, where Lucifer can be seen as a symbol (thus, atheistically) and Lucifer can be seen as a literal spiritual entity (thus, theistically). I’m not exactly Luciferian (I’m syncretic and my focus of worship has been the Dark Mother Goddess Lilith instead of Lucifer, although I’m also worship him to a certain extent), but my beliefs are fairly close to Luciferian beliefs, and I also used to participate in a Luciferian sect in the past.
It’s worth mentioning how theistic and atheistic aren’t a binary thing, either: I’m myself somewhat between theistic and atheistic Luciferianism, I see Lucifer both ideologically (rebelliousness, the search for knowledge, etc), metaphorically (as a cosmic principle) and spiritually (a literal manifestation of an ancient force). They’re far from being mutually exclusive concepts.
Now, one could argue that those names (Lilith, Lucifer, Satan) are originally Christian. It’s not really wrong, as the christian bible do mention all those names (e.g. Isaiah (chapter 34 for the only, shy mention of Lilith across the entire bible), Revelations and Job).
But Christianity emerged from Judaism, as Christian bible is basically the Torah plus additional books and the belief that the Mashiach already arrived once, named as “Jesus of Nazareth”.
Satan, originally “Shaitan”, comes from Judaism. Lucifer is Latin for Morning Star (or, to be exact, “Light bringer”, Lux Ferre, from that verse that roughly goes in the lines “I saw when you fell from heavens, O Morning Star”).
And Judaism, in turn, emerged as some kind of amalgamation between Canaanite religion and Zoroastrianism.
Yahweh is basically the Canaanite El isolated from Asherah due to patriarchal machismo (some Judaism branches used to worship Her alongside him, but the Goddess was eventually erased (or, at least, they tried to erase Her existence) from Abrahamic faith because the idea of worshiping an Almighty Goddess is “scary” for those with male insecurities).
While the concept of duality already existed before, Zoroastrianism was the one to crystallize the principle of antagonization between “Ahura Mazda” and “Angra” seen in Abrahamic faith (Allah vs Iblis, Yahweh vs Shaitan, God vs Satan).
This reply of mine is verbose, but my point is: no, it’s not a Christian-only thing to believe in Satan, just like it’s not a Christian-only thing to believe in a deity. And religions don’t come in just one orthodox flavor. “Syncretism” is a concept that exists, mixing concepts from multiple belief systems, sometimes also mixing non-religious concepts such as philosophical and/or scientific knowledge.
Christians are the only ones that believe in Satan.
No, satanists do not believe in Satan.
Islam and Judaism believe in the same old testament so there’s two other possibilities.
Christians and Muslims are just jews 2.0 and 2.5.
Very true, but I believe those to be very rare - with quick online search I could not easily find any information about Judaistic or Islamic Satan worshippers
That could be simply because I’m limited to English speaking parts of internet though, and those parts are overwhelmingly atheistic or christian
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When you say “Satanists do not believe in Satan”, you’re probably referring to the atheistic branch. In reality, there are theistic branches as well (i.e. Satan as a literal entity and/or deity, see, for example, “Temple of Set”).
I can personally exemplify with Luciferianism, where Lucifer can be seen as a symbol (thus, atheistically) and Lucifer can be seen as a literal spiritual entity (thus, theistically). I’m not exactly Luciferian (I’m syncretic and my focus of worship has been the Dark Mother Goddess Lilith instead of Lucifer, although I’m also worship him to a certain extent), but my beliefs are fairly close to Luciferian beliefs, and I also used to participate in a Luciferian sect in the past.
It’s worth mentioning how theistic and atheistic aren’t a binary thing, either: I’m myself somewhat between theistic and atheistic Luciferianism, I see Lucifer both ideologically (rebelliousness, the search for knowledge, etc), metaphorically (as a cosmic principle) and spiritually (a literal manifestation of an ancient force). They’re far from being mutually exclusive concepts.
Now, one could argue that those names (Lilith, Lucifer, Satan) are originally Christian. It’s not really wrong, as the christian bible do mention all those names (e.g. Isaiah (chapter 34 for the only, shy mention of Lilith across the entire bible), Revelations and Job).
But Christianity emerged from Judaism, as Christian bible is basically the Torah plus additional books and the belief that the Mashiach already arrived once, named as “Jesus of Nazareth”.
Satan, originally “Shaitan”, comes from Judaism. Lucifer is Latin for Morning Star (or, to be exact, “Light bringer”, Lux Ferre, from that verse that roughly goes in the lines “I saw when you fell from heavens, O Morning Star”).
And Judaism, in turn, emerged as some kind of amalgamation between Canaanite religion and Zoroastrianism.
Yahweh is basically the Canaanite El isolated from Asherah due to patriarchal machismo (some Judaism branches used to worship Her alongside him, but the Goddess was eventually erased (or, at least, they tried to erase Her existence) from Abrahamic faith because the idea of worshiping an Almighty Goddess is “scary” for those with male insecurities).
While the concept of duality already existed before, Zoroastrianism was the one to crystallize the principle of antagonization between “Ahura Mazda” and “Angra” seen in Abrahamic faith (Allah vs Iblis, Yahweh vs Shaitan, God vs Satan).
This reply of mine is verbose, but my point is: no, it’s not a Christian-only thing to believe in Satan, just like it’s not a Christian-only thing to believe in a deity. And religions don’t come in just one orthodox flavor. “Syncretism” is a concept that exists, mixing concepts from multiple belief systems, sometimes also mixing non-religious concepts such as philosophical and/or scientific knowledge.