• WatDabney
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    Even this analysis doesn’t capture the real problem.

    Asserting that the DNC “fails to learn” implies that they have some goal they’re not meeting.

    They don’t.

    Their goal is to rake in as much corporate soft money as possible, and by that standard, this past election was a resounding success. And nothing else, including winning elections, matters to them.

    So they’re not really “failing” at anything. In fact they’re succeeding nicely. It’s just that they’re succeeding at being corrupt, self-serving and deceitful.

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      9 hours ago

      If progressives know how to win elections better than the DNC then why don’t they just win enough elections to control the DNC?

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        The goal of leftists is to complain and by that standard, this past election was a resounding success. And nothing else, including winning elections, matters to them.

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        What makes you think that I’d be interested in defending a claim I didn’t make?

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            Actually, that was a rhetorical question

            And amusingly enough, you provided an additional illustration of the real answer.

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          To extend a bit, the DNC controls the machine to run elections. They are friends with the corporate donors and the “left wing” media. Without their support it’s very hard to brand yourself as a full blown democrat candidate, which eventually will matter to the voting public.

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          How did any progressives get elected if our primaries are unfair?

          How do progressives win against the GOP when they don’t play fair?

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            According to leftists, control of corporate donors and the media makes the DNC extremely strong. But simultaneously, the DNC is extremely weak.

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            How did any progressives get elected if our primaries are unfair?

            They got elected despite the party’s interference.

            How do progressives win against the GOP when they don’t play fair?

            The GOP doesn’t control national elections like the DNC/DCCC/DSCC controls primaries.

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              Multiple progressives lost their primaries recently and blame AIPAC funding. Criticizing democrats for catering to donors. While losing to democrats because they catered to donors.

              All while claiming they can win elections better than democrats.

              The GOP will also be catering to donors.

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                    Progressives will continue to lose until they give up their morals and descend into the muck of incompetence and greed like us fine fellows, and take the big money dick that is being offered. You’d be stupid to try any other way of winning.

                    I am very smart.

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                    5 hours ago

                    Clearly the solution is just to sell out as hard as possible since there’s no other way to win.

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                I was talking about the way the party runs (or eschews) its primaries. You pivoted to international donors.

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                    This is what you initially responded to:

                    This implies a fair primary process.

                    You’re putting words in my mouth in order to change the subject to one you’re more comfortable with. In this case, the subject you’re more comfortable with is gloating that AIPAC bought you some pro-genocide primary challengers.