• HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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        6 小时前

        Progressives will continue to lose until they give up their morals and descend into the muck of incompetence and greed like us fine fellows, and take the big money dick that is being offered. You’d be stupid to try any other way of winning.

        I am very smart.

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          4 小时前

          Progressives will continue to lose because they think they don’t need to work with ideologies other than their own in a country where progressives are a small fraction of the population.

          ‘Don’t try to appeal to moderate voters! Why can’t we win elections?!’

          ‘Don’t compromise with republicans to get the votes needed to pass legislation! Why can’t we get legislation passed?!’

          ‘Is is us progressives that are to blame for our lack of progress? No it is the voters that are wrong!’

          ‘We are very smart’

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            39 分钟前

            If the strategy of compromising with the right, appealing to moderate voters, and sucking up to corporate donors is so effective, why did it fail miserably at stopping the fall to fascism? Are you of the same mind as the Democratic leadership, that Kamala Harris ran a perfect campaign?

            You’re making the same mistake that right-wingers make, blaming the powerless for the actions of the powerful.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        8 小时前

        Clearly the solution is just to sell out as hard as possible since there’s no other way to win.

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          8 小时前

          I’m not saying what is good/bad. I’m saying what wins/loses. You can be good and lose in the case of progressives. But then you can’t claim you know how to win better than the DNC.

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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            8 小时前

            I’m saying what wins/loses.

            Well, it’s a good thing we ran so fucking far to the right, then. Can you imagine if Harris had listened to progressives? She might have lost the primary we didn’t fucking have.

            She lost to Trump because she did what you wanted. Don’t worry. The party will never fucking change.

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              7 小时前

              Democrats have won the majority of the elections since the 90s using this strategy.

              How many elections have progressives won?

              There were a lot of black/female/indian democrat voters offended that anyone would even consider a primary instead of going with Vice President Harris. All those votes would’ve been lost.

              She lost to Trump because that’s what China/Russia/Iran/North Korea and the billionaire class wanted. Whether intentional or not you’re just helping them out by scapegoating the DNC.

              • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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                7 小时前

                Democrats have won the majority of the elections since the 90s using this strategy.

                It’s still the 90s, huh?

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                  7 小时前

                  Nope, a long time has past since the 90s. That’s the point. The DNC has won the majority of elections for a long time. Proving they know how to win, unlike progressives.

                  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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                    7 小时前

                    Then keep it up. Keep pretending that it’ll work forever. You deserve trump and only trump. After all, you want two identical fascist parties.