• lugal
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    5 days ago

    Except that it’s older than that, even in Europe, there was quite some time between the Black Plague and capitalism. But they originate in China where they are much older. Sure, capitalism is composed of many aspects and maybe China had some aspect associated with capitalism back than as well and I’m not too sure about the connection between Europe and China regarding last names. I donno.

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      4 days ago

      In The Second Sex, De Beauvoir quotes Engels as he argues that patriarchy (as we know it today) likely arose with the advent of private property. So there is some relation to capitalism (of which private property is a core component), but it goes back way further than the Black Plague and marking it down to “trade promotion” is over-simplistic at best in that it’s wayyyy worse than that.

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        4 days ago

        What you are saying is that private property laid the basis for patriarchy and (much later) for capitalism

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          4 days ago

          That is what I am quoting De Beauvoir and Engels as saying, yes.