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  • pheetto[Locked] YUROP@lemm.eeCome on do something
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    2 months ago

    France is there to get cheap Libyan oil from a warlord.

    I will need more convincing on that. But I do see that France’s involment does have pretty bad optics - and maybe reasons. But because France is not the only one there, it sure isn’t something black and white.

    And I wouldn’t draw comparisons to Ukraine as the Libya has unfortunately have had so much internal instability that is not comparable - though one could say something Euromaiden and the aftermath of it but that is still order of magnitudes different starting point.


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    2 months ago

    Take Libya for instance where France is helping the Haftar regime to continue waging war against the internationally recognized government alongside Russia, Wagner, the UAE and Egypt.

    Pretty sure France is not there to be along with Russia and Wagner but because Russia and Wagner is there. Russia’s interest is to grow influence and cause issues to Europe.















  • And Bush invaded Iraq with such a honest justification. Looking from outside of USA, this ’Democrats crying wolf’ narrative just seems dumb; it’s acking to Obama being elected just because of Republicans crying for communist for the nth time. I mean e.g. what are the examples for McCain been called fascist? The Hills’s example was Madonna in a concert! And that the more serious examples in history are more of type of stupid one offs rather than more cohesive phenomenon.

    Though I do not completely dismiss that this couldn’t be a factor but media are really trying to find the silver bullet of explanations which imho just doesn’t exist.