• WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    It just has an absolute ton of calculations to perform on hardware that is not made for it.

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      9 months ago

      Then why did it run just fine on 10 year old phones? Its not like they added any groundbreaking new stuff.

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        9 months ago

        Lack of care mostly, especially on the Java edition it has gone downhill in performance rapidly ever since Microsoft has owned the place.

        I love how they make Bedrock edition for “performance” and then completely mess up on doing anything with it.

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        I’m not sure how this was handled on different platforms, but a recent update actually doubled the size of worlds by making them way deeper. It doesn’t seem like they did squat to optimize it in the process, playing split screen with the kiddo on ps4 gets pretty laggy. They made cave generation way more complex too, so maybe that taxes it more when entering a new area but I cant really tell

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        9 months ago

        It ran while simulating a distance of one chunk at a time. Computers could simulate much more because the game was written to let software define just how far from the user to render. Phones rendered hardly anything which let them at least play the game.

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      9 months ago

      Minecraft is despite that a horribly unoptimized game that could run fine on A LOT more hardware but has given up on even trying to do so.

      There’s so so many things they could easily do especially with how big of a game it is, but they just do not.

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        9 months ago

        I’d say it’s the fact that modders are able to fix the game that proves a point, but I’d rather say it’s the fact that modders fix the game SO SIGNIFICANTLY that proves a point. The fact that essentially all aspects of minecraft can be rewritten for efficiency just goes to show that Microsoft needs to divert focus for a bit.

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          9 months ago

          If a tiny team of people making a mod can do so much good then Microsoft is just being insanely stupid.

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            9 months ago

            Microsoft isn’t being stupid, given that they barely have to put effort into the game and billions will buy and play it.

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              9 months ago

              Microsoft is stupid to me in the same sense the way the US handles capitalism is. They could’ve stopped updating at 1.8 and people would still be playing it as much.

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                9 months ago

                Yeah, but it’d become a niche instead of the game that every kid plays. And, of course, updating lets them sell more stuff on their marketplace.

                Is bedrock even minecraft anymore? It seems a lot more like an EA remake.

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                  9 months ago

                  I’m pretty sure they’ve gone as far as giving Minecraft explicit lore, kind of defeating the whole point.

                  Most of Bedrock is really locked down depending on what platform you use, on mobile custom modding becomes harder and harder. It’s really only the store that’s really viable to use.

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        9 months ago

        Minecraft is deceptively hard on cpu and gpus for what the game appears to be. It looks simple, but that simplicity comes at the cost of very high computational loads due to how dynamic and interactive everything is. They add in new features pretty frequently for a game I bought 12 years ago. Those features aren’t free and they stress the system even more. Be happy it is playable at all on a phone - it’s nice that they added in tuning parameters to let your phone be capable of playing it instead of saying you need the newest RTX4090 just to get 30fps

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          9 months ago

          Everything in Minecraft can be optimized significantly, even with all the extra states they have added to all the blocks and the rest to the point where it should run SIGNIFICANTLY better. There’s not even LOD.