Revolt, a new privacy-friendly OPEN SOURCE messaging app. - Thoughts?
Literally just discord with a commitment to privacy - which isn’t worth very much until they implement encryption.
Lots of branding, with no clear features to set it apart.
Perhaps one of the alpha users can convince me otherwise. Why does this need to be it’s own product instead of just contributing to Matrix? Matrix bridges to everything already and has essentially the same mandate (with the bonus of federation.)
This seems to be more focused on voice-chat, which Matrix only has by embedding a mumble-web widget (or Jitsi-meet).
what’s wrong with the Mumble web widget or Jitsi Meet?
Nothing wrong, but they are not Matrix and Matrix does not implement voice chat itself.
Fair enough.
This really needs a comparison chart. Also I really wish they just made a Matrix client instead of starting their own protocol. They claim that they will implement a Matrix bridge but that seems like a lot of effort compared to just using Matrix.
And most importantly. I want security information. Is this end-to-end encrypted?
I’ve actually been in the REVOLT community for a while and currently there is no end-to-end encryption since it is in very early alpha, but they have confirmed that they will implement end-to-end encryption by default.
Cool!
Is it federated, or is that something planned? Are they planning anything to differentiate from Matrix or the other proprietary chats (Discord, Slack, etc.)? Matrix and Element are becoming more and more usable all the time, so I’m curious to see how this one compares.
REVOLT is basically trying to become Discord but privacy friendly. They’re looking to implement everything that Discord has and mimic the same layout for usability.
Regarding federation, they have no plans for such a thing, they built it without federation in mind.
Then its dead in the water IMO. Why would ppl want to switch to something built without federation or encryption.
I don’t know if you read the entire thread but it is in early alpha. As of the time of writing, there is no way for you to sign up. You can apply to become an alpha tester and even then, it is clearly stated that it should be purely used for just that: alpha testing.
They won’t roll out a stable release for mass adoption without end-to-end encryption.
A Discord replica with privacy in mind is a great idea for mass adoption as recommending it and getting people to switch over would be the easiest thing in the world since it functions exactly like Discord which people are already familiar with.
Federation is preferred but is not a must to have a successful privacy friendly alternative. It might be a deal breaker for you, but for most people out there, it’s not.
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Ogh Cool!
Also I really wish Matrix just made a XMPP client instead of starting their own protocol. They claim that they will implement a XMPP bridge but that seems like a lot of effort compared to just using XMPP.
There, fixed that for you :D
Fair point. But at least they have documented reasons why they think Matrix is the better approach: https://matrix.org/faq/#what-is-the-difference-between-matrix-and-xmpp%3F
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It has no license? They say its open source and you can create your own client but, I don’t see any license, which means they have all rights reserved and the code isn’t free.
Maybe I didnt look hard enough but it should be pretty clear what license it’s under. Seems kinda sketchy.
Edit: It seems some of the projects have a license, but not the server.
All projects have now been issued a license.
Cool, just saw
It looks promising! Thanks for sharing, I’m going to take a look at it.
my vote is for rocket.chat as self hosted solution.
News:
They confirmed, that you will can self host it too, and will be end-to-end encrypted!
Thanks but we already have XMPP
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