• Olive@lemmy.ml
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    3 years ago

    I am curious though, if Russia says they aren’t going to invade Ukraine, then why are they doing this massive military build up? Like what is the point? If the US/NATO refuse to cooperate with Russian demands… then what? Nothing? Do they just stay there?

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      3 years ago

      There really isn’t any massive military build up that I’m aware of. Russia has simply been conducting military exercises, and the point of these exercises is to put pressure on NATO. What Russia is saying is that if there was a serious consideration to admit Ukraine to NATO, then that would be a cause of them to attack Ukraine. This is a game of chicken Russia and NATO are playing, and that Russia is currently winning.

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        3 years ago

        I think who is winning is something neither you or I know enough classified intelligence to make definitive statements on. What we have been fed is propaganda from both sides. My other question is, if Russia wants a buffer between NATO countries, then wouldn’t invading Ukraine put Russian borders right up against NATO borders (Romania, Hungry, etc.)? I’m not seeing the logic in it.

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          3 years ago

          It’s pretty clear that Russia is in a much better position than NATO here. Europe depends on Russia for around 40% of its energy, and there is no credible alternative to that. Russia also has a far bigger military force that it would be able to deploy than NATO. Russia has also become sanction proof, even financial times admits this now. On top of that, Russia is also allied with China creating a huge economic bloc that Europe is entirely dependent on. Europe already does more trade with China than US at this point. European leaders clearly understand this, hence why there are direct negotiations are now happening between Russia, France, and Germany.

          And again, Russia has no interest in invading Ukraine. They want Ukraine to be a neutral country the way it was before NATO did a color revolution there.

          edit: spelling

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            3 years ago

            These are all great points! I’ll be internalizing this perspective from now on.