Italian opposition leaders are demanding “clarity” from the prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, after a gun owned by an MP from her far-right Brothers of Italy party was accidentally fired at a New Year’s Eve gathering.

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    Tangential question. How is their education about Italys role in WW2?

    I’m fairly ignorant of their politics, but it seems like they gravitate towards the far right.

    I know that Germany has invested a lot in educating their populace that while the guilt of their Nazi ancestors is not theirs to carry, they must understand how they got their there, and accept how evil their actions were, in order to not allow history to repeat.

    Does Italy take similar ownership?

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      History is teached as it is, no sugarcoating anything. But many are still fond of fascism if they grow up in a conservative family. Many in the south also see mafia as strong fascinating. It’s just what it is. Like 50% of Americans would vote for Trump or 50% of Brazilians would vote for bolsonaro if they could. Some people are just stupid

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      Unfortunately, in Italy different choices were made. Not by Italians but by who won the WW2. Educating about the dangers of some ways of thinking or even condemning some people as criminals would have empowered too much the PCI (Italian communist party) and made the country lean too much towards the Eastern block, so a “general amnesty” was made and most things were forgotten. Here is the result. Good luck.

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      Italy has a lot of problems with their fascists and their relation to their role in ww2, as a nation, no doubt. But also, what I have seen in italy is something I have not seen in any other country. Anti-facists occupations of buildings hosting clubs, womens refuges, theaters and jobs for immigrants and refugees. I was on a city walk with one of these movments associated with other occupations, and they toured the city showing the anti-fascist graffiti, showed city maintained plaques of anti-fascist actions and told stories about the resistance movements during ww2. For an italian, I can imagine there is some escape from their nation’s responsibilities embedded in that event, but I can also see how it was obvious how it was fueled by a distain for fascism and anti-semitism.

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      Yeah, Germany did such a wonderful job that now the only position allowed is to justify another genocide attempt in Gaza. But thank god they invested in that amazing education!

      What a bunch of bullshit. Germans clearly didn’t learn shit.

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        They did a really good job, the world is complicated and I am a supporter of a free Palestine. The Germans should be doing better but they won’t allow themselves to.

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          They won’t, because they did a shitty job. What they did really good was convincing themselves to have done a good job. That’s why they get sour when confronted with the fact that they didn’t in fact a good job.

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    Wonder how “accidental” this really was. Reich-wingers tend to be pretty violent

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Italian opposition leaders are demanding “clarity” from the prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, after a gun owned by an MP from her far-right Brothers of Italy party was accidentally fired at a New Year’s Eve gathering.

    Emanuele Pozzolo confirmed that the pistol belonged to him but denied firing the bullet, which grazed the leg of a 31-year-old man who was among the security entourage of the Italian justice ministry undersecretary Andrea Delmastro.

    They have also seized the 0.22 caliber North American Arms mini-revolver and the bullet removed from the thigh of the victim as part of the investigation.

    “I confirm that the gun, which is legally owned by me and which injured one of the participants at the party, was fired accidentally, but not by me,” Pozzolo told the Ansa news agency.

    Elly Schlein, the leader of the centre-left Democratic party, called on Meloni to immediately clarify the action she intended to take against Pozzolo.

    Delmastro, who said he was outside when the incident happened shortly after 1am and therefore was not a witness, distanced himself from Pozzolo, who reportedly turned up at the party to “say hello” after seeing the new year in elsewhere.


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    Nope, we did not invest at all setting straight what Mussolini did to our country. We’ve been very loose and a ambiguous, with the result that they’re There are two factions o Pro and antifascists. What your comment made me think is the exploit of AFD in Germany, hence the investments not always are enough