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    11 months ago

    You literally are voting for genocide. You are telling the US government “yes, more of this please”

    You could withhold your vote to put pressure on Biden’s administration. You won’t do that. Biden sees every blue-no-matter-who voter as a guaranteed vote and a reason to not change his policies in any way. They’ve literally said as much! They have said they aren’t worried about elections because Republicans are worse. This is what you’ve created, you voted for it.

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      Nah this is what voter apathy and “my way or nothing” gets you.

      Fascists eagerly ready to vote and do-nothings who just complain online and do absolutely 0 work to get what they want.

      Seems like you have a really well thought out solution though. Can’t see any holes in your logic there, don’t let me stop you.

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        Nah this is what voter apathy and “my way or nothing” gets you.

        This is what voting for Joe Biden got us! I voted for him to stop fascism and now he’s supporting genocide. We’re complicit.

        Do you think you’re blameless? That it’s not your fault? We chose this! It’s our fault that a genocide is happening. We voted for this. Our tax money is blowing up children as we speak. Do you feel no guilt? No shame? No responsibility?

        We chose this. We’re cosigners on this genocide. We voted for this. It makes me want to fucking kill myself.

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          I voted for him to stop fascism

          Has he done that?

          Do you think you’re blameless? That it’s not your fault?

          Relatively? Yeah.

          We chose this! It’s our fault that a genocide is happening. We voted for this. Our tax money is blowing up children as we speak.

          Melodramatic much? Unfortunately the world doesn’t revolve around you or I and we can really only impact the things and people around us. It’s important to recognize the things we can effect and acknowledge that our impact on the greater world may be minimal at times but not to be discouraged.

          Do you feel no guilt? No shame? No responsibility?

          Relatively? No.

          I acknowledge I’m extremely lucky to be born in the “first world” and be fortunate enough to be able to shelter myself and feed myself (for now at least). I actively try to help when I can; that means volunteering, donating (time/money), working a weekend every month or so in your community to try to make it better.

          We chose this. We’re cosigners on this genocide. We voted for this.

          I didn’t vote for this in the primaries or the general, I didn’t work the phone banks or canvas for it so I’m not sure who “we” is.

          It makes me want to fucking kill myself.

          Yeah obviously you’re depressed as fuck, I get it. Don’t do that though, it won’t solve anything and will actually make the world a worse place. I’m actually in therapy working on some things myself, you can PM if you ever want to talk about anything.

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            Has he done that?

            No! He’s doing genocide!

            Relatively? No.

            Why not? You voted for those bombs. You payed for those bombs.

            This is our fundamental disconnect. You don’t seem to think you are responsible for your active support of genocide, yet somehow by not voting for genocide I am responsible. It’s pure ideology.

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              Is every Gazan responsible for the actions of their leadership? Is every Israeli responsible for the actions of their leadership? You’re reducing an incredibly complicated issue to black and white.

              Don’t get me wrong I’d love for the U.S. to not be involved in the M.E. at all but that’s not the situation we’re working with. You accuse me of ideology while failing to grasp the realpolitik involved. You’re demanding a binary solution to a Base10 problem.

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                The realpolitik is that the US needs Israel as an unsinkable aircraft carrier to control North Africa and the Middlr East and the Arab Peninsula. It is a critical piece of the empire. That’s why the US supports Israel. It’s all about trade routes and securing hegemony and shit like that.

                Now, if you aren’t going to take responsibility for voting for Biden, then I’m not going to take responsibility for refusing to vote for Biden. That seems fair.

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                  And when American Nazis are rounding up drag queens and sending trans people to re-education camps you can smugly sip your tea and know that you voted your principles.

                  I don’t think you know what “literally” means.

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                    No, actually, I’ll be rounded up too. I’m trans, they’re going to fucking kill me if they can get away with it.

                    But hey, if it’s not your fault Biden is supporting genocide even though you’re voting for it, the how the fuck is it my fault if Trump does genocide when I don’t vote for it?