I bet morale is so fucking high if you’re employed by Twitter right now.
Not only has their “boss” shown to fire people indiscriminately, he is also willing to fuck over whatever contact they’ve sign.
I don’t feel anything for those people.
For the employees left behind and forced to sleep onsite, unable to quit because of their work visas?
While I do feel for those people, the only reason they’re here to begin with is to avoid paying US workers market rate…
Edit: to clarify I meant the corporation is at fault for exploiting them by bringing them here to start with.
Whose fault is that? The workers or the boss exploiting their labour?
The boss/corporation.
I can’t fault some poor person from another country for coming to the US to try to make a better living than they could where they came from. If I were in their position, I might very well do the same.
I can fault big corporations for not only screwing over US workers by using foreign labor to drive wages down, but for also screwing over foreign laborers by paying them substandard wages and using work visas as a way to hold them over a barrel. Greedy fucks.
I agree, sorry if my post wasn’t clear (rereading it is ambiguous). The corporation is to blame not them
Sorry, but that it is absolute nonsense at best, and dangerous anti-immigrant rhetoric at best. Your edit makes nothing better, and if anything makes your comment more stupid.
People move countries all the same, and most sane businesses believe that diversity in the workforce breeds innovation and more productivity. Many people at Twitter likely joined from transfers from offices all around the world, likely to spend time in the US or to move to a team that better suited their skills. They’re now trapped not because they’re “wage slaves”, but because their visa likely doesn’t allow them to move jobs.
If the US were to relax their L1 visa during the layoffs last year and allow people to transfer to a new employer, Twitter would probably be dead today.
This has nothing to do with immigration or a diverse work force. Nice strawman. These are temporary limited visas that the sole purpose is to allow these tech. companies to bring cheap labor that they have leverage on.
I’m all for immigration reform and improvement. But again that has nothing to do with these visas.
I literally work in the tech industry, at a large tech company, WITH people on work visas. They are all paid on the same pay bands as everyone else, with many earning more due to joining at a time when more RSU’s were issued. You’re talking utter nonsense. Outside of extreme cases like WITCH companies, this isn’t even remotely true.
I love a good loss for Musky.
It looks good on him.
And not much does.
Who wants to bet one of the arguments he wanted to use was "Twitter doesn’t exist anymore, I run a platform called X, therefore well don’t need to honour any Twitter contracts "
So far Elron’s excuse is basically “well, I had my fingers crossed”
Would something like that not be possible as a private company, essentially dissolve and make another? (Not just rename it)
Of course for that to work at all, all the employees would have had to sign new contracts.
And all of this please probably would have had to happen at purchase time (edit)
Probably still not possible even then if everything was done perfectly.
Some people say stuff like “well bet he didn’t get rich by paying his bills! Yeah!” He didn’t get rich by not paying his bills either. I knew a lady who inherited a large urban motel and was quite wealthy, and she’d buy 65 cent dozens of expired eggs on sale and be all excited that it was a bargain. It’s part of their pathological attachment to having more money, and in Elron/Trump’s case, complete disregard for other people and moral principles.
He never got rich in the first place. He was born rich.
Sure, though not as wealthy as he is currently.
But that’s kinda the problem, right? Piketty’s central thesis is that above a certain amount of critical mass capital has a sort of gravity that almost inevitably attracts more wealth to itself at an exponential rate, and only truly cataclysmic events (either on a personal or societal level) can disrupt that accrual. People like Elon, Trump, and all the other failsons and nepo babies populating the millionaire and billionaire class are walking proof of the theory – even if he wasn’t keeping pace with the larger market, Trump still managed to make Daddy’s money last until now, and he’s self-evidently less intelligent than most small rodents. That wasn’t any special talent on his part growing the family fortune – it’s just (effectively) ambient cash getting caught in the gravity well of his inheritance and falling past the event horizon, in spite of his dumbassery.
If he did get rich by not paying his bills, then that would be even more fucked.
This is why you need unions.
I like unions and I don’t think this is an example otherwise. But, why does this highlight unions? This is a dude that didn’t write a check. I don’t think he would have paid bonuses to a union either. It seems to me, a judge would be needed in either case.
Union contracts leave things less open to interpretation, union advice helps employees understand that this is a legal issue, and coordinated legal action and representation help you win the fight in court.
Leaving it to individual employees to individually see the problem, recognise they have legal standing, then fight Phoney Stark’s infestation of lawyers isn’t super-realistic, and turns the employment contracts into nothing more than a weapon to fuck with the employees, because Musk can just ignore anything in the contract favourable to employees.
This was an oral agreement that a judge found binding. This shit happens to unions. Again, I like unions and think these employees would be well-served by one, but it’s hard to see this example as “this is why we need unions”.
Unions aren’t silver bullets - but they’re bullets nonetheless, and that’s good enough most of the time.
With that, I agree. It doesn’t answer my question, but I’ll gladly agree with you.
The court, famous for siding with the workers over the bosses in all but the most egregious cases.
Christmas is running early this year.
Still looking forward to Lonnie’s eventual collapse. He’s imploding in slow motion.
I just hope SpaceX doesn’t go down with him
Why? Everything SpaceX has done Nasa has already done. If anything SpaceX is taking resources from public programs.
Haha!
