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      I don’t think it’s that - or rather said, I don’t think that’s the primary or even the biggest reason.
      If that were actually the case, you would expect to see a gender disparity in the 20-25 age range because women aren’t conscripted into the army.
      There’s little to no gender disparity there in that graph.

      What I think the cause is for that enormous dip is precisely the period when those babies were conceived.
      20-30 year olds were conceived in the 1990s-2000s, a period of time which was quite difficult for Ukraine, subsidies given to mothers were low, often not even paid in full, applying for benefits was so complicated it barely was worth the effort of doing so.
      In just a couple of years after the collapse of USSR, life expectancy dropped dramatically in Ukraine, so that should give you an idea of how that period of time was for the people.
      Reality is that when the economy is doing shit, people won’t have babies.

      Check this fertility drop post '89: https://i.imgur.com/dvADJ9i.png

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        There is also an animation on Wikipedia until 2021. In the last year (2021) it says roughly 170k men per age between 20-25. So the drop to 80k in the 2023 graphics is dramatic.

        I found some explanations that the census was missing for many years (you can also see a revision around 2017), so some of the missing people might never have been there.

        But this drop is so massive that I see no other explanation than a big migration.

        And sadly, these new numbers show that Ukraine has a bigger problem than previously thought to find enough fighters to liberate the country.

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          And why don’t you think that the low birth rates of the 90s-2000 is a valid explanation?

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            Because in 2021 the numbers for that age group where around 180k, so why should it now be 80k?

            It is hard to believe that for 20 years you have miscounted the population by a factor of 2.

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    If you subtract state employees, about six to seven million people are left. They provide for the other 23 million people: pensioners, children, students, the unemployed, dependents, public sector employees, etc.