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    I don’t know what the Gilmore Girls is, but I do know that Star Trek: The Next Generation also ran for seven seasons. Hell, The Simpsons has been running for like 35 some odd seasons now and is a bigger part of our collective heritage (not just north or south) than almost anything else in American history. People have been born and died only ever knowing a world where the Simpsons was on TV.

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      I mean, I’m sure there were plenty of people who were born and then died who only knew a country at war with the confederacy. Mortality rate of infants back then was pretty high compared to now.

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      The northern equivalent, the green mountain boys is still active. Talking a ceremonial role, but still a military.

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      My brother and I were just arguing about The Simpsons. Did their reign begin in 1987 (when they debuted as shorts on The Tracey Ullman Show) or in 1989 (when they debuted as a half-hour primetime series)?

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        I feel like it begins in 1989. The shorts on Tracey Ullman were more like proto-Simpsons and were only like what, a few minutes apiece? I remember watching them when they even came out and didn’t think too much of them other than they still seemed funny at the time. Those early shorts didn’t seem as “classic” as some of the first season episodes, I can vaguely even recall what happened in any of them and the character art was pretty rough then.

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    By that reasoning the nukes dropped over Japan is but an insignificant moment in history and of no importance what so ever.

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      Look at all those silly Japanese complaining about a few seconds of heat and 2 years of mild radioactive fallout. What’s that to thousands of years of history?

      See how fucking ridiculous that sounds.

      If people cared so much about Gilmore girls that the show caused a war with a quarter million Americans killing eachother, this might be slightly more relevant.

      Damnit I take jokes way too seriously, don’t I?

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        While that is true the Confederates were fighting for slavery and got their asses whooped by one general. I’d respect remembering the confederation. Calling that your heritage is a bit ridiculous. Literally no one was born and raised in the Confederacy. Yea plenty were born in those 5 years but that’s not even a decade. It had less of an effect on your heritage than your great great great grandfathers emo phase. They really should be a historical study. Much like ancient Greece.

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          They fought for slavery and lost a hundred thousand lives, had the land devastated. They believed so much in the cause of slavery that they died en masse for it.

          The impact on both sides of that struggle is being felt of both sides of the mason Dixon line to this day. As is evidenced by all those confederate flags and the current rejection of the impact of slavery on society at large, the denial of the marginalization of black people in our society that is not mirrored in other societies.

          Calling that impact an emo phase will put you in a place where you lack the ability understand it.

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      But even your example wouldn’t work for your argument as the development leading to the nukes took at least 5 years, not even counting the fallout afterwards. Just saying

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    Wouldn’t it be funny if Gilmore Girls was responsible for as many deaths as the Civil War?

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    Emily is the Karen-in-chief of Connecticut. Wouldn’t surprised me if she didn’t establish her own mint of Gilmore bucks when the U.S. Treasury denied her demands to put Rory’s face on the 20. Rory would be on the Gilmore 20, Lorelai on the penny (which was meant as an insult, but Lorelai takes to mean she’s the lucky one), Richard’s strong profile on the quarter, and Emily herself on every other denomination like the queen she is.

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      Emily is definitely the Queen.

      Paris, in this scenario, could be a stamp commemorating a war won with her as the commander of the troops.

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      Honestly I like Emily more than Rory or Lorelei, most seasons. Just because somebody is the protagonist doesn’t mean they’re a good person. Emily just tries to do her best given the circumstances she was raised in, and she generally does well adapting to change. Everyone else mostly sucks most of the time.

      Richard was cool until he fucked over Digger.

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        Eh. I’d agree they’re largely cool. But then they’re practically eugenisists when it comes to Rory and Lorelai’s partners. They intentionally bombed Lorelai’s relationship with Luke, a stable, kind, generous, and successful small business owner because he didn’t come from wealth. They also refuse to believe that Logan or his family was anything but perfect until his father fully admitted it. To their credit, Richard had to step away before he got physical with him and Emily let Logan’s mom have it in the most Emily way possible. But they were prepared to assume that their quality as people was equal to the size of their bank account despite being told by Lorelai exactly how awful they had been to Rory. They were prepared to deem Lorelai a liar and not believe a word of it rather than consider the possibility that the Huntzberger name didn’t mean that they were implicitly great people. They value money and status over everything, even their own family, on a number of occasions. And the irony that Richard’s mother hated Emily and didn’t support their marriage because of Emily’s family is completely lost on her too.

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        Rory and Lorelei both kinda suck. Rory runs home to Mommy anytime she fails, and Lorelei has basically no real control over Rory because she’s so focused on being Rory’s friend and not her parent. Lorelei is lucky Rory is such a nerdy goody-two-shoes tbh.

        It’s weird that Rory and Lorelei’s relationship is commonly held up as the healthy mother-daughter relationship in that show, when it’s really quite dysfunctional - the two are severely codependent best friends, not mother and daughter.

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          I don’t think you’re wrong, but fairness where it is due, if you had a kid like Rory that was highly responsible, academically excelling, an active member of the community, and on track to go to an Ivy League school to do what she was passionate about… that doesn’t leave a lot of room or need to parent at that point. You won the parent lottery, congrats! And at 16, nearing adulthood, and already more generally mature than many in their 20s (if still a bit naive), it’s pretty normal to be letting otherwise well-behaving children start to become more independent and treating them as a young adult. That doesn’t necessarily mean treating them like a peer/sister, but also in fairness, they enjoy all the same things and each other’s company and they’re closer in age than the average mother and daughter and have only had each other as family for most of Rory’s life. There “friendship” does make it a struggle to actually parent and correct Rory on the odd occasion when she does actually need it, but it’s not all bad as an example.

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    Halo: CE came out 22 years ago. When Microsoft eventually buys out the US government, can they replace all the Confederate statues with statues of Master Chief please?

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    Gilmore Girls is my guilty pleasure TV. I make everyone I meet watch it, I think it’s such a solid homage to that era. But I’m a chicky show person

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      I fail to see how any television show could be anywhere near as bad as a war over whether or not slavery should be allowed.