Based on concerns from both the admin team and most users here, the lemmy.ml admin team decided to add wolfballs.com to our blocklist. There is just too much reactionary content that breaks almost all the rules we have here.
It’s natural for open instances like this one to develop blocklists organically, and so far we’ve only felt it necessary to block 2 instances. If there’s any concerns about other instances that we should keep an eye on, let us know.
i made the mistake of going to that site to check if it’s really problematic 🤦♀️
I would like to add that wolfballs.com will still be included in the instance list on join-lemmy.org. Thats partly because it makes moderation of this instance easier if users can join an instance thats more appropriate for them. Plus the admin is making good contributions to Lemmy and promoting it. Also, Lemmy cant be a real alternative to Reddit if we exclude such a large part of the userbase.
Maybe in the future we can implement more fine-grained federation controls, so that we could federate only certain, non-political communities with wolfballs. For now, every instance admin can decide whether to federate with it or not, and users consider that as a factor when choosing an instance.
Well, it’s your choice. They’ll likely form their separate part of the fediverse.
I was looking forward to trolling them though :/
So you’re looking forward to being part of the problem, just what the internet needs more of. Awesome.
You look forward to taunting them when you’re insulated from any responses?
That’s what a troll does! Their purpose of existence is to be an ignorant douchebag.
I recommended this on Matrix. It really was necessary. The site admins are in favor of vaccine misinformation and extreme fearmongering to the point of hostility towards science in general.
Thank you! I feel like the fediverse is made better and benefits from people who take notice and put information in front of the right people. It’s just one little thing, but all kinds of downstream outcomes are averted, and we don’t have to say “gee I wish we blocked them a long time ago” because we went through a period of them poisoning the well.
Difference of opinion… Blocklist. That fits.
That is one of the points behind federation. Instances can choose to remove federation for another site without infringing on the speech of anyone in the blocked site.
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Extremely! Same dude I just agreed with on a reply called me a cunt (didn’t elaborate why) right below it. It’s the agree with me 100% on everything or it’s full on attack. Yet accuse wolfballs of being intolerant bigots. Good ol’ pot calling the kettle black!
I don’t think you understand. This wasn’t a case of different opinions. This was an instance where the admins were aggressively promoting racism, vaccine misinformation and fearmongering, and staunch opposition to science. They had essentially openly bragged that, when faced with evidence, they would strongly prefer the opposite.
- An admin posted this. I hope I don’t need to explain all the layers of garbage here.
- Here, an admin posted, saying that somebody who suggested compassion towards trans athletes was a “RINO,” and saying fuck him – how dare he suggest basic human decency towards trans people!
I really don’t want to dig anymore, but it’s bad.
On top of that, their idea of federation does not include the perspective of outsiders.
On the Ronald McDonald thing… who cares? Why are you that hypersensitive? Welcome to free speech. On the “Illegals” thing, that was referring to people from other instances coming on and down voting the crap out of things which was made pretty clear… so?
On the Dr Oz thing, I disagree. Somebody isn’t a RINO because they’re on the right and say they have compassion for trans athletes, but MANY now regardless of what side of the fence you’re on have a cult like belief that you either subscribe to 100% of an (assumed) political ideology or you’re canceled. But again, moron or not, free speech.
I have compassion for trans athletes, and trans people in general, I can’t even imagine what it must feel like to think you’re in the wrong gendered body for what your brain is telling you that you are, but I’m also not going to pretend that especially in the case of a professional athlete that a biological man doesn’t have a huge unfair advantage over a biological female. Changing your name and clothing, and even taking a bunch of hormones doesn’t remove that advantage. That simply can’t be ignored. This is only a thing because it’s been politically charged. If an athlete tests postive for PEDs they’re kicked out on their ass and labeled a cheater. But when they biologically have more muscle mass, more bone mass and all around more power it’s ignored you’re cancelled and labeled a “bigot”. Sorry, that’s bullshit. That’s simply ignoring the biological differences between men and women, if there wasn’t a diffeerence as some people living in a dream world actually claim, then why do trans people have to load up or hormones, hormone blockers, be prescribe other anabolics etc?
I’m for everybody living their life the way they want, but that doesn’t include disconnecting from reality to do it.
On the Ronald McDonald thing… who cares? Why are you that hypersensitive? Welcome to free speech.
I’m not sensitive, there’s nothing personal to it, I’m pissed off that they’re a. spreading lies that make this world worse every day, b. taking a hostile position towards science in general. Not arguing that vaccines are bad science or that they’re scientifically unfounded, but that science itself is a bad thing. And c. arguing that anybody who believes in vaccines is stupid, to be pitied, not to be trusted.
It’s not just the standard conspiracy theory, it’s multiple levels deeper and more dangerous.
I’m not saying they should be arrested. I’m saying they’re garbage people who should not have their lies amplified by federation.
On the “Illegals” thing, that was referring to people from other instances coming on and down voting the crap out of things which was made pretty clear… so?
It was a joke, but it’s a joke by the admins that belies their scorn for other human beings.
On the Dr Oz thing, I disagree. Somebody isn’t a RINO because they’re on the right and say they have compassion for trans athletes, but MANY now regardless of what side of the fence you’re on have a cult like belief that you either subscribe to 100% of an (assumed) political ideology or you’re canceled. But again, moron or not, free speech.
Again, it’s not just that they’re against trans people in sports – Oz didn’t say they should be allowed to play – or that they don’t have compassion for trans people. You missed the point of the meme.
It’s that they think compassion for trans people means he’s not a Republican at all. That the reader is required, as a (presumed) conservative, to hate trans people, overtly. Many hatemongers at least think they’re coming from a good place – love and pity for something they just don’t understand. Not only are they not coming from that bigoted position common among conservatives, they know they’re engaging in hate, and they’re demanding that the rest of their community agree with them.
I’m for everybody living their life the way they want, but that doesn’t include disconnecting from reality to do it.
Unless it’s over vaccines?
You are being downvoated for, in my view, a very reasonable opinion. People are being social engineered into this woke or political correctness mentality badly. This shits scary. Remember seeing an interview done to a Chinese deflector warning about this and its similarities to Mao Zedong’s revolution in China.
You are being downvoated for, in my view, a very reasonable opinion. People are being social engineered into this woke or political correctness mentality badly. This shits scary. Remember seeing an interview done to a Chinese deflector warning about this and its similarities to Mao Zedong’s revolution in China.
I was considering moving out of Reddit because bans and shit. My first day using Lemmy and first post I read is about blocking/black lists etc. :( Why the need to block? You dont like you dont go there.
This is actually the strength of federation and open source. There is no central authority to stop any use. We individually have control over what we interact with in the usual way and we (collectively as an instance) have the same control. If you don’t want to belong to an instance that blocks anyone, join a different instance or even start your own. This is just one place of many. Each of us can find or create the one that is right for us.
I still don’t understand this federation idea. Maybe because I’m used to the simplicity of centralization. Where can I find more info about how this federation works?
Its just like email. One person on gmail can email someone else on protonmail. A person on one lemmy server can subscribe to communities on other servers, and see posts and comments from users elsewhere.
With email, you can also block email addresses who keep spamming you with things you don’t want to see, which is what we’ve done here.
Is there a federation, social media platform, or some online community or wtv on the internet where representatives of both sides, left and right and maybe center etc, have civilized discourse and are at their best behavior? I mean is there a place where people with opposing views can co-exist and debate respectfully? Without the fear of being cancelled, blacklisted, censored, harassed etc? Because if there is I want to join. Thanks
No, because marginalized peoples pretty quickly get tired of “debating” bigots on their right to exist. A comment of mine about this last week.
It’s simply, many independently controlled things, that can interact with each other like they’re centralized. But there’s not one person with their finger on all of it like FB.
