• Aode (He/They)@lemmy.ml
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    With these examples I think the correlation is a little loose. Dr Lutchmedial died two weeks after his third shot. Claiming the vaccine was a direct cause when the only available evidence is a two week timespan is weak.

    The other example provided doesn’t demonstrate harm caused by a vaccine. It sucks that a deadly virus is deadly, and it sucks that the vaccine didn’t help in this case. It’s not a good argument against getting a vaccine.

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      It is an argument to be prudent.

      One unvaxx podcaster died of Covid. A doc and an IT guy died of Covid despite being vaxxed.

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      What is direct?
      Did hear about something like long adverse effect on specific people group ? Most medicine have this. You don’t die/heal of chemio in one shot. it takes time.

      Between, why do you think vaccine validation takes years usually?
      “oh because it was old techno and group people is lower, here we have high-end reprogrammable technology.” You try to sell what? the new macbook with first new-new components 1.5x faster than last year model and experiment with?

      But because it is new, and we are/were in front of a bad influenza level virus killing the same demo (>65y), we have to screw protocols and accepts all stuff coming from a repeat offender company?

      ANYWAY, they unfortunately died of COVID despite being double and triple vaccinated in a short period of time. You can’t say vaccine is the only mean. Maybe they had commorbidity SO, you should not address it as an universal solution.

      That’s it. No reptilians, no illuminati, etc… plain basic stuff.

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        What caused his death? Was it cytokine storm brought on by vaccine affect? Could it have been Guillan-Barre? Do you know what the risk of autoantibody development leading to long term rheumatological issues in treatment of COVID-19 is?

        I’ve been doing a study whereby I look at the ACE impacts of COVID-19 prime and how those might be suspect in neurological affect from long-COVID. Do you have any insight into how an endothelial virus with limited primary neurological impact could lead to lasting affect? You seem to have done your research well. I could use a fellow researcher to bounce ideas off of.

        Also, given that your assertions imply that you have substantial knowledge of this case whereby a gentleman took the COVID-19 vaccine and then died, do you have any pre-publication work I could see on the event? It’s questionable to me how this chain of events took place.

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          You know what: nobody die from the vaccine. Nobody ever died from medicine. Is it legit?

          EDIT: Forgot: Japan suspended Moderna previously. Strange for a 100% sure working vaccine.

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            Listen up homie, I have a metabolic myopathy that causes negative vaccine reactions, and can just straight randomly throw my body into rhabdo. Yea, medicine can kill people: the risk analysis is what you’re looking at. The vaccine makes incidence of illness less bad, and often has fewer negative impacts for healthy individuals with fewer risks for society at large.

            You know what has killed more people than the COVID Vaccine? And more than it probably ever will?

            COVID.