• pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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    I’ve actually seen a whole lot of boomers born poor as fuck that lucked into the most prosperous time to be alive; finding that almost any property they bought, company they started, stock they invested in (etc) managed to not just make money but succeed significantly and make them wealthy by retirement age, have adopted this same mindset.

    TLDR: idiots who were born poor blow this tuba just as much as idiots born rich.

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      the line between poor and rich was a lot closer in 1950 than it was in 1980 than it was in 2010.

      it’s interesting if you watch old movies in the 1980s vs today and compare the ‘average’ lifestyle portrayed. it blows my mind how ‘poor’ families in 1980s films are.

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      My parents are in this boat and don’t understand how the ladder has been pulled up behind them. They see the modest success my siblings and I have and don’t realize that we’ started from privilege that they earned for us, but is no longer available to the people starting today where they started 40 years ago.

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    I used to ate with this sentiment, and I still do to an extent, but also I realized “sitting around doing nothing and being bitter” would guarantee I would get nothing.

    So yeah success isn’t just hard work, but for most of us, unless you put in the effort you’re not gonna get anything.

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    Rich Kid Speak: “I spent years of my life working my ass off to reach the position I’m in today. You slackers just don’t understand what it takes to succeed because you’ve never even tried.”

    Translation: “Thanks to the influence of my parents, I was admitted to an exclusive club that perpetuated a series of brutal hazing rituals against me. Eventually, I got to the point where I was allowed to perpetuate these hazing rituals on others. Then I moved on to a new organization with new hazing rituals, until I internalized the idea that perpetually hazing young people was the key to a virtuous upbringing.”

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    A Related family has 600k take home. their kids go to athletic camps with trainers from professional teams in the off season. then go back to school and expectedly run circles around their peers. the difference in skill is always attributed to their work ethic or genetics…

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      I mean literally you said work ethic. If they’re out in the offseason working out whether they’re being paid to or not and whether people are training them. That literally is the definition of work ethic. Kind of an idiotic statement to make for that. It’s the exact same thing as if somebody were to train as hard as they could in the off-season and continually train and weight lift and do everything else and follow everything that’s available out there. Only difference is they have somebody right there in front of them helping them make decisions.

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            Self guided study is per definition more work ethic than a tutor brought in by the parents/guardians.

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              Not really. Work ethic by definition is simply how hard you work at whatever you’re doing. If somebody’s working every single day for hours a day whether it’s with somebody or without somebody that is literally the fucking definition of work ethic quit trying to make fucking excuses because you couldn’t fucking succeed at something.

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    poor folks can work and achieve stuff. they just have to beat the odds stacked against them.

    and whatever they achieve will just always been less than what the rich and privileged folks were born into, and they will forever look down on them for it.

    poor people’s achievements are rich people’s failures. like a poor person going to college is a huge deal… for a rich person it’s the equivalent of learning to tie your shoes.

    I’m in the no man’s land of being born into a poor family, having made it ‘big’ by getting a fancy education, but then only having a middle-class life, and basically being told by everyone I’m a rich privileged assholes and a poor loser piece of shit, depending on their mood at the moment, often from the same person. Schrodinger economic status, I guess?

    But I’m also an asshole in that I view folks in their economic whole, and I don’t really believe them when they cry poor.

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    Yes, there was a lot of work to be done, but in the sense of keeping slaves working and robbing others, taking everything for yourself and your family for centuries, oh yeah, oh yeah.

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      Bootstraps are cheap and apparently you just have to pull on them.
      I’m not really sure how it helps though, it’s not very clear.

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    In this thread. Poor people that haven’t done anything with their lives bitching. My brother and I grew up poor as shit. Homeless for a while, etc. My brother just moved back to our hometown to take care of our aging mother. He bought the largest house for sale in the center of town. Meanwhile I travel the Western US doing IT work. Owning my own company and employe others.

    You can do so much. Even if you start out poor. Neither of us got any loans. Neither of us had any handouts. Neither of us come from privilege. But we are both comfortable because we did work our asses off, and we are smart enough to make the right decisions at the right time. I’ll never be rich. But I’m comfortable. My brother, he’s very well of and possibly may retire this year in his late 40s because of the decisions he’s made in his career.

    So maybe just maybe instead of bitching so much. Get off your fucking asses and do some shit.

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      I am happy with your achievement but being healthy to work a lot and being smart (having talent for IT for example) is also a kind of inborn privilege.

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        I didn’t have a talent for IT. I didn’t know shit about computers until I went to school and worked my ass off the past 20 years.