I dropped her off this morning and saw girls (and boys) wearing grass skirts, some of them with coconut bras too. I’m not sure what else is going on, but it doesn’t seem very respectful of a native culture that we have seriously fucked over. Would they have a “Native American Day” and let kids come in wearing feathered headdresses?

Or am I reading too much into it?

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    Maybe. I just would like to know what a native Hawaiian would think. I know a Native American would likely be offended if they let kids in wearing feathered headdresses. Neither would be universally true, obviously. I’m just speaking in generalities. I guess since it seems offensive to me, I would like an argument for why it isn’t.

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      I know a Native American would likely be offended if they let kids in wearing feathered headdresses.

      Would they? Depends on the context I suppose. There’s a difference between celebrating other cultures and cultural appropriation.

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        But isn’t it sort of the indigenous version of blackface? I’m honestly asking, I’m not trying to make a connection that isn’t there.

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                    Yes, I agree that it isn’t that simple, and as I said in another comment here, people of a specific culture will have differing opinions and feelings on the matter. That doesn’t mean that non-Hawaiians get to decide what is offensive to Hawaiians, and that is what I am addressing.

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                  Ok, then in that case OP doesn’t have a right to decide elementary school Hawaiian day is offense. Case closed.

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                    There is a difference. OP is asking if indigenous Hawaiians would find it offensive. You have been stating that it isn’t as a matter of fact, even though it’s not for you decide.

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            But aren’t grass skirts ceremonial? Like part of religious ceremonies? I really would love a native Hawaiian to chime in.

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                Ok, then maybe that shouldn’t happen either? I’m just not big on cultural appropriation, especially when it’s one culture appropriating another culture they committed genocide against and never apologized for.

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                  Cultural appropriation is a debate of its own. The wikipedia page on cultural appropriation explains it better than I can. My view is that yes, it would be bad if people started wearing pa’u’s on a regular basis because they think it looks cool with no respect for where it came from. Wearing one to Hawaii day at school is not bad because the intention is to celebrate the culture.

                  Later this month I’m going to an Oktoberfest party and people will be wearing lederhosen. I live in the USA. Is that offensive?