• lugal
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    1 year ago

    Reagan and Thatcher introduced neoliberalism into their respective countries. If you were right, it would have been pointless to vote for a center left party in the next election because they wouldn’t abolish it. But when the Democrats/Labour came into power, first thing was to undo all the shit and abolish neoliberalism, right? Right?

    John the Duncan made a good video about how the center left parties legitimized and normalized neoliberalism in the next legislative period. If you want me to, I can see if I find this video.

    • unfreeradical@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Democrats/Labour came into power, first thing was to undo all the shit and abolish neoliberalism, right? Right?

      Right! If Reagan and Thatcher made neoliberalism law, then Clinton and Blair made it doctrine.

      • lugal
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Give me a day or two to find it. If I forget, remind me 😉

        It’s not that he did only one video on neoliberalism, it’s one of his favorite topics.

    • biddy@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      In New Zealand, neoliberalisim was introduced by the center left Labour party.

      • lugal
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Interesting! I thought we Germany were the only ones. We had a coalition of the social Democrats together with the green party in the late 90s/ early 2000s. Especially the green party used to be very radical until they came to power

    • DessertStorms@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Lmfao, what the fuck do you think neoliberalism is?
      And yes, it is pointless voting for the centre left, for exactly that reason - they too are neoliberal (= capitalists = exactly the point I was making in my comment).
      You’re seriously not making the point you think you’re making lol

      • lugal
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m not making the point you think I was making. I wasn’t arguing against you. If it was all Reagan’s fault, the center left would have corrected it. But they didn’t. They turned neoliberal when they got to power. They are now but weren’t before.

        neoliberal = capitalists

        That’s very simplistic. 19th century capitalism wasn’t neoliberalism. The new deal era wasn’t neoliberal but socdem. Neoliberalism is the flavor of capitalism introduced by Thatcher/Reagan/… it’s not the same as capitalism.