cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/1977881

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Banksy isn’t happy with Guess’ latest collaboration.

The legendary anonymous graffiti artist had a directive for his followers on Friday, encouraging them—possibly tongue in cheek, possibly not—to visit the Regent Street Guess store in London and steal the brand’s new collection that features his artwork.

“Attention all shoplifters. Please go to Guess on Regents Street. They’ve helped themselves to my artwork without asking, how can it be wrong for you to do the same to their clothes?”

  • jlow (he/him)@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Nice, stealing from multinational conglomerates is never morally wrong and should always be encouraged.

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    I’m from the UK and I have no idea who Guess even are, so they can’t be that big of a deal. I won’t support them anyway… if I ever see them haha.

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      There’s a legitimate discussion to be had about whether not he should be doing that, but to compare it to a multinational corporation profiting off of clothes depicting his work without his permission is pretty disingenuous.

      This is not me saying people should go shoplift nor is it me saying that Banksy isn’t a whiner.

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          I’m not sure where the bad faith accusation is. You’re saying that because of the way he operates, they get to use his work without his permission on physical products they sell for profit. If this is incorrect feel free to explain what you meant.

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            You made no bad faith argument here. Your response for further discussion was a great prompt and right in line with this thread but clearly they don’t want to engage.

            I really dislike this trend of responding to comments with the red badge of “bad faith argument”. It is awfully dismissive, particularly without saying why, like in this case here. Best case, they may expect that you know exactly why you are being accused of that and want to shut down bad faith arguing, but if you have no idea why, it’s really just meant to insult or harm. Ironically, accusing someone of a bad faith argument without explaining why may be considered bad faith arguing.

            Sorry you got a response like that. I thought your response was good, thoughtful and good attempt at more discussion. I agree and don’t have much to add, unfortunately, but just wanted to support your post.

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      nahhhh. we know who he is, and he collaborates with local authorities to put up his art. and retains all rights to it of course.

      so he is actually very justified in feeling this way because he unironically greatly benefits from the commercial side of things.

      of course, he still wants us to think this is some counterculture shit.

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        I don’t know that this is strictly true, he has had works painted over before and notably had a rivalry with that Manchester King fella and they re did each others works regularly.

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          Yeah and the rappers that make diss tracks about each other totally hate each other too, it’s not for publicity at all, they’d really kill each other if only they had a chance. Too bad they’re too busy making millions.

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            That’s not what I’m saying, I think you’re being intentionally negative and obtuse. Yes there is a commercial aspect, no it not a given that everything he does is with the approval of local governments.

            He didn’t stand to gain anything by feuding with the other street artist.

            Also there are lots of hiphop feuds that do famously bleed into real life and too many have died. Are there people who use this narrative to further their careers, yes but it doesn’t make everything fake.

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              He stands to gain attention and notoriety, which is why he does everything he does. As does the other street artist. If you don’t think it was a publicity stunt fine, I certainly can’t prove it was, but that’s what I believe.

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      A time capsule from one year ago? Mate, if you’re gonna use the time capsule meme, you gotta go further back then one year.

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        It’s to signify this is old news m8. The article was from last year… Why are you so slow ?

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      So if you don’t agree with a multinational clothing brand using someone’s art for profit without their permission you’re a nazi now?

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    The people that will be affected most are the front line staff who is already working on minimum wages…not the multinational corp

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      They won’t, they are encouraged to let the shoplifters shoplift, because it’s just collateral.

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        In turn the company will seize operations in that area and the cashiers will lose their jobs.
        Great job.

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          You think Guess is going to let their flagship London store go over some shoplifting?

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            Yes, at enough volume in theft they will just close the shop.

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                You just advocated for it. If you dont want it becoming the norm, why would you recommend people to do it. And yes. They will close even the biggest store, if the lost revenue rises high enough.
                Especially if it becomes the norm and morally accepted.

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      If the company is paying you minimum wage you really struggle to give a shit about people stealing from them

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        Well, it took a whole 2 months, but at last “why all the downvotes?” / “downvoted for the truth smh” / etc. has reared its head in my feed again.

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          What transpired here was a fucking travesty. OP was robbed of the critical acclaim that they deserved for their short form original comedy routine and instead they were met with nary more than silence, broken only by the left-mouse-button click of disapproval.

          Until our deuteragonist, @Blake (PBUH) entered the tale, turning those unwashed, downvoting masses aside, to extend the open hand of succour to the hero of this story, to be the rock that the chaotic waves break upon, and yet the solid foundation upon which civilisation can be built.

          Sir, ma’am, or neither, I say to you - perhaps to you I am but the deliverer of a nearly-forgotten refrain, a creature of yesteryear, attempting to re-establish traditions which should be confined to the annals of history. But do not forget that one of our kindred reached out to touch the minds and souls of their fellow human, thinking that their wit and comedy would be appreciated at least by some, and until my timely arrival, they were ignored and rejected. Put yourself in their shoes.

          I choose to imagine that reading my comment, an expression of gratitude in the desolation of coventration hitherto experienced, was akin to the Sun rising on the horizon after a long, cold night.

          What I’m trying to say, my dear friend, is this: “lol, lmao”

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    This is horrifying. There’s no good reason to ever steal from a store, period.

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    His celebrity status depends on hyperbolic rhetoric like this. If he had handled it the way normal people do, through courts, he’d be damaging his mystique. The sheep that think he’s the bee’s knees slurp this bullshit up.

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    What a fucking idiot. He / she could have sued them if he felt aggrieved instead of encouraging people to commit crimes.