• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    146
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Translation: you’ll become more conservative when you have children and own a home

    Millennials: 😆
    Zoomers: 😂
    Alpha: 🤣
    Whateverthefuckcomesnext: 💀

    • ulkesh@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      51
      ·
      1 year ago

      I have a child and own a home, and am a member of the lost generation. Fuck the Republican Party and any conservative who believes their selfish bullshit should outweigh the greater good of others.

        • ulkesh@beehaw.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          I agree about Republicans. I don’t agree about Democrats. Some, of course, are conservative, as they historically always have been. But a good portion are quite liberal.

          • Khotetsu@lib.lgbt
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            13
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            As a whole, the Dems are pretty center of the aisle, because America as a whole is fairly conservative compared to Europe (despite 60% of the population being more liberal than the government at most times). Europeans generally consider the Dems in the US a conservative party, and corporate Dems are definitely closer to the right than to the left. The other issue besides the general conservative leaning in the country though is that there’s about 50 other groups of various left leaning shades that would be their own separate parties in Europe but are bunched in with the corporate Dems and therefore have little say in the party platform.

          • ulkesh@beehaw.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            Seems people feel the need to try to educate me, not really sure why. But whatever :)

      • RadicalCandour@startrek.website
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        1 year ago

        I agree with everything you said except, im confused about the use of the term lost generation. That’s a generation born in the 1880-1900s.

        • ulkesh@beehaw.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          My mistake if so. I was under the impression that term was used for those of us born between 1978 or so thru 1983.

          In any case, I don’t see myself in the same vein as GenX nor Millennial, at least stereotypically.

          • RadicalCandour@startrek.website
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            I had an feeling you actually meant GenX but I just wanted to make sure. I know that GenX is often thought of as the latchkey generation. I’m on the edge of GenX/millennial.

            I just see myself as apart of the “ boomerang “ generation where I’ll be worse off than my parents. Fun times.

      • halferect@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        53
        ·
        1 year ago

        Which is weird since conservative politics is all about cutting funds for schools, gutting the department of education completely, no pre k or free lunches for kids, and getting rid of a large portion of our law enforcement. Just doesn’t make sense why any one who cares about education or safety would be conservative

          • TheForkOfDamocles@beehaw.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            1 year ago

            You should look past the Cato Institute’s analysis of the KC schools situation. For example, the summary and conclusion sections of this article from the University of Michigan law school show that the conservative criticisms are based on myth.

              • TheForkOfDamocles@beehaw.org
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                You may revise your opinion after reading the summary and conclusion, but maybe you just figure the liberals at Michigan Law can’t possibly understand all the nuances vs someone watching their local news.

                Also, it doesn’t have to be all or nothing. Your skimmed analysis of silly twists of numbers belies the full picture, and in my opinion, total desegregation without changing the major obstacles of the systemic segregation of the city’s real estate, was doomed from the start.

                BTW, I agree with you that merely throwing money at an issue without cause isn’t correct. One might argue against the ridiculous and constant over-budgeting of the military, for example. In KC, I believe it had many successes, though obviously not a complete realization of the goals (that shouldn’t have needed to be implemented in the first place).

                  • TheForkOfDamocles@beehaw.org
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    The Pentagon asked for less. It most certainly IS over-budget. When I say “the military” I mean the Military Industrial Complex, of course. I’m a supporter of our military, of the people actually in it. With a budget greater than the next ten countries combined, the M-I-C is outlandishly frivolous.

                    Regarding this, but more to the KC schools topic, it seems like your philosophy of budgeting is that only 100% = success, and anything less = failure.

          • jennwiththesea@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            How would they prove to you that the funding for schools is necessary? What studies do you require? How is the state going to conduct these studies (in your view), in a timely manner that will positively impact this generation?

            There is plenty of research showing, e.g., that fewer kids per teacher provides for better education. Studies that show the benefit of school nurses, counselors, and other wellness experts. All of this costs $$$, often way more money than any given community is willing or even able to put up. This is why strong state funding is so important, rather than relying on levies and bonds. Requiring your specific state to prove the value of teachers, special education, etc is quite an ask. Why isn’t the existing research good enough for you?

      • robotrash@lemmy.robotra.sh
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Then why conservative when they actively hate children and society in general? It seems insane to lean that way.

      • SeaJ@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Not in my case. I grew up pretty conservative she moved right libertarian until learning economics in college which moved me left. I bought a home and have two kids and am squarely on the left. I care about schools and crime which is why I want more funding for education and programs that actually decrease crime.

        Healthcare is the big one for me. We should not be forking over 20% of our paychecks for healthcare. People on the right are fucking nuts to believe that the cost is because of too much regulation considering we have the least regulation and pay twice as much with now limited options. We need Medicare for All.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        13
        ·
        1 year ago

        Economic issues always come down to economic incentives. You care about property values because your home is an investment. You care about stocks because you have a retirement plan. You care about not being a burden on your children when you’re old and having inheritance to leave behind when you die. You care about crime because you have things to steal and a life to lose.

        I don’t have property. I will never retire. I will never have children. I am nothing and no one and that will never change.

        When I was younger I was a pretty typical liberal. By 30 I was a Marxist-Leninist and desired nothing but the complete destruction of the demon shithole country called Amerikkka. 😘

              • cloudpunk@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                6
                ·
                1 year ago

                No offense, but it seems pretty naive to say things will get better. I try not to jump on conservatives when they are willing to engage, but that’s a pretty rough take.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                7
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Optimism is for older generations, who lived the before times when life got better year-after-year.

                That has never happened in my entire life.

                  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    4
                    arrow-down
                    5
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Industrial production, mostly with simple hand tools and feeding steel parts into welders and presses.

                    It’s so fucking hot. It’s so fucking hard. I’m so fucking tired. Everyday forever until I’m too old too work, and then I’ll take out a 9mm retirement plan.