I read parts of the report, and there has been counters to all the evidence they’ve gathered. Much of them on right here Lemmy!
Just a sample:
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#whats-going-on-with-the-uyghurs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fa3gt6y50WrdRFNdAGHk_fubyfBLygvc/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iBDPmTm-ZSBnhN6d3-_eUoCOHUiSdZyE/view
https://lemmy.ml/post/70189 (see comments)
https://lemmy.ml/post/282145 (see comments)
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=67pU0Ybovnc
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YAj89rm-GkM
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wENwvxsfVM8
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8yURIS7S9zg
BTW, yes. I do actually read Western reports condemning China, and most other Western geopolitical reporting. Whereas in my real experiencing debating right here on Lemmy, plenty of libs wouldn’t even consider reading “tankie” resources defending China. If the latter applies to you, you might want to consider if you actually care about the truth or not or if you just love to hate certain countries.
Love the bouquet of weasel words and qualifiers. “May have”, “indications”, “allegations”, “may constitute”
I think there should be a general rule of thumb that when a Western news article uses this many qualifiers, it’s probably bullshit and they’re trying to cover their ass when it inevitably gets called out for being bullshit.
a Western news article
This isn’t that though. It’s a UN report that’s the result of an investigation by Michelle Bachelet (former president of Chile and head of the Socialist Party of Chile). The only reason you’re seeing articles saying “may have” instead of making up some N+1 million figure (N being the last time they pulled a random number out their ass) is because that’s the language the report uses
The report is linked in the second paragraph:
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Why the hell would they? They have no obligation to prove the rest of the world right or wrong of their doings.
Are you equally surprised the USA gov isn’t letting other nations to come inspect all the south American refugees they have locked in cages? Not to mention allegations of sterilization and torture in these prisons.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/18/914465793/ice-a-whistleblower-and-forced-sterilization
Not to mention the USA and Canada have genocided and brainwashed the natives of north america and have yet to provide any meaningful reputations to them. Even worse they continue to oppress these minority groups, which only happen to be minorities because they’ve killed off the majority of them.
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Hell yeah! Now tell the US to open their borders to a joint Chinese-Russian-Iranian-DPRK investigation unit! They better get to take a microscope to the Pentagon and the White House and generally do whatever the hell they want with all the human rights allegations on the US!
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Do you really believe the UN is a neutral organization? The US and few Western countries, with less than 10% of the world population, take up over 80% of OHCHR posts. Also, wasn’t the UN an active participant in the Korean War on the side of empire not so very long ago?
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The US doesn’t listen to the UN or the ICC either. Hmm…
If China has nothing to hide and all this is just Western propaganda, they should accept an official investigation and access to any facilities that have been proven to exist, right?
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Would the US or EU let China just walk in and rifle through the country(ies)? No? Why is that? I thought if they had nothing to hide they should be open to that!
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3003217/eu-rejects-chinas-offer-xinjiang-tour-says-its-open-one-later If the EU really thinks a human rights violation is being committed, they’re not taking it seriously. What are they, too busy or something?
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https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/statement/2019/11/11/world-bank-statement-on-review-of-project-in-xinjiang-china Wait so Western orgs do go there?
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https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/422970-pakistani-diplomat-narrates-visit-to-chinas-xinjiang Pakistan too! And they saw the actual reeducation camps!
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You’re real naïve if you think the UN is actually neutral and not a sock puppet of the West. Take a look how disproportionately they let atrocities committed by the West and their allies slide and how much they antagonize countries the West hates. Actually, just look at fucking Israel and Saudi Arabia and how well they’re treated by them. Now look at Iran or Cuba. Notice a pattern?
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Great analysis of the western media coverage of the report as well as what the report actually says.
