… and I absolutely love it.
After my previous post where I asked for advice on distros I have tried Mint and EndeavourOS first as VM’s and afterwards I gave them their own partition and tried it on my real hardware.
Something about EndeavourOS just sat right though and I promptly replaced my windows install with it. KDE Plasma also blows me away with the amount of customisation that is possible.
I’ve spent some time configuring today but mostly aesthetic stuff as my hardware worked 95% out of the box. Some odd dependencies were missing for steam to work properly but I’m really not missing anything that windows had right now.
I’m curious how my uni workflow will look like now, but I’m sure I can make it work.
Thanks a lot for the support and advice you’ve given me. I really love the community on here.
I’ll get back to customising my bash prompt now. 😄
Edit: Due to popular demand:
I use Arch, btw.
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I already do, haha 😄
You forgot “I use Arch BTW” at the end of your post.
You mentioned customizing your bash prompt, I recommend checking out OhMyBash. https://github.com/ohmybash/oh-my-bash.
Alternatively, zsh is also good, and a little bit more modern. I still haven’t found a solution that uses modern keyboard shortcuts and text entry functions. Even zsh things like shift+arrows and ctrl+arrows are an after market hack.
And the zsh equivalent Oh My Zsh
In case you’re interested I’ve tried out a few things and kinda settled on fish, but will still use bash for scripting.
This will send me down another 4h rabbit hole today, thanks 😬
It sounds like you’re right at home in the Linux community!
This is pretty neat, what are some of the plugins you like to use with OhMyBash?
I’m a big fan of fish personally.
I’ve heard of it but never checked it out. It will be worth a check at least.
I don’t use Endeavor or Arch (btw), but KDE Plasma is amazing. I’d probably be happy with any distro as long as it supported plasma.
Plasma doesn’t just work on any distro? Does it have specific requirements?
Doesn’t work on Guix, or at least isn’t in the repos and didn’t work at all some time ago. Something to do with the way Plasma expects the files stem to be versus how Guix implements it. Nix makes it work so it must be possible, not sure whether anyone’s bothered to port it over yet though.
Oh, that’s quite interesting. It most certainly works on NixOS, considering there is a live KDE option, so why it doesn’t work on Guix is mystery for me.
My understanding is that a good desktop environment experience also relies on distro maintainers packaging things in a timely manner, et cetera.
I guess it might not be available in all repositories. I can’t think of one where it definitely isn’t though.
Some distros are more oriented toward another DE. You can always install KDE, but you may be stuck having to mix and match it with GTK stuff from your distro itself
I’m looking to build a new PC (for Baldurs Gate 3) and been heavily leaning on ditching Windows for Endeavour. Or OpenSuse or Rhino? Some easy to set up rolling release. Considering Arch based to sorta match my Steam Deck.
Glad to hear everyone raves about Endeavor.
Endeavor is fantastic. For all the time I ran it, I never had any of the issues that people say Arch is riddled with: updates irreparably mucking up your system, packages making a mess of things, the AUR being unstable and dangerous. I’ve found that most of these claims come from people who are against the way Arch does things and have never actually tried it for any extensive amount of time.
You do need to be mindful of updates being pushed to your system (read the newsletters, they will tell you if anything in the update is broken and how to fix it) and have the technical know-how of how to fix those things when they do happen… And they will happen. That’s any rolling release, though.
Personally I use OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for gaming, it was a breeze to set up and continues to be a breeze to work with. I love every second of it. But EndeavorOS is a very close second for me.
Only significant issue that I’ve had with EndeavourOS/Arch is when I had a laptop with it installed and didn’t update for like 6 months because I rarely needed it. When I went to do a full update, it really messed multiple things up. There were just too many massive changes at once. I just shrugged and reinstalled with the newest ISO, but if I had heavily customized it or something, I would have been pretty annoyed. Ever since then I usually install it with BTRFS and auto pacman snapshots.
Also, never perform partial upgrades unless you know what you are doing. That’s apparently the fastest way to mess things up. I played with this before and it definitely will break things.
I actually think a lot of Arch’s bad rap comes from Manjaro. Manjaro actually does have all these problems and people attribute them to Manjaro being an Arch derivative.
I’ve been using EndeavourOS for about 2 years now, it’s a fantastic distro!
you are using arch, always rememeber that, do backups, you have your university things there
If you use a computer, make regular backups.
I’ve been using endeavouros for about a year now, and if things stay as they are I’ll never be switching. Like you said it just sits right for some reason. Easy installed and everything just works, all my games run great on it as well. I use the zen kernel but I dont think its mandatory.
Biggest advice I can give is set up timeshift…like now. Its a huge safety net and will let you play with things with out worrying
timeshift from the AUR, grub-btrfs from the repos to be able to boot right into snapshots.
Is it like Manjaro without the bloat?
A major difference is Manjaro has its own repos which has a tendency to break AUR packages, while EndeavourOS uses the normal Arch repos. Endeavour is pretty much just pre-configured Arch so it bypasses a lot of the issues with security and stability that Manhjaro suffers from.
IMO I still think people should just use vanilla Arch so they can customize everything to the fullest but EndeavourOS is a decent option.
Oh nice! I like Arch because of AUR, but I’m too lazy to go through the setup again, so I’ll definitely try this.
I’ve seen it described as an arch gui installer, I’m not knowledgeable enough to confirm nor deny that
It’s a little more than that, but not much more. It installs common packages that someone might need for a functioning GUI and has some helpers specific to EndeavourOS installed as well. It basically makes it trivial to install “Arch”.
It is Manjaro without the break.
I’ve never tried EndeavourOS as it always seems a bit pointless now archinstall exists.
As someone who used both, endeavourOS gives you a good idea what a system should look like, it’s not extremely overdone.
I did switch to Arch, just because i think that i don’t need quite as much.
If i would have only tried Arch i would have spent so much time figuring out what’s possible and what i want.
There is a place for it, not everyone wants to take so much time figuring things out and that’s fine by me.
Fair point. For me using a distro dedicated to making Arch accessible just is more attractive than having an installer and being on my own afterwards.
But yeah, EndeavourOS is pretty much just an installer with purple space theming.
Also, the community around a distro makes a difference. I don’t think that the EndeavourOS community has quite the lofty expectations of its users that Arch users do, so getting help might be a bit more pleasant.
That’s really one thing that is not straightforward about Endeavour: Their Plasma setup is very minimalistic. You will be missing a few optional packages that you usually would expect, e.g. the Firefox integration.
Chad move