Luis Rubiales is criticised by a Spanish government minister for kissing forward Jenni Hermoso on the lips after Spain’s Women’s World Cup victory.

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    1 year ago

    Definitely gross and unexcusable behavior. But, it’s funny how the BBC final coverage of the world cup is about the Spain’s controversies and how great the England team is. Nobody likes a sore loser. Lol

    Que viva España y sus campeonas! 🇪🇸

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    1 year ago

    I didn’t like it

    And then…

    In comments later released by the Spanish football federation Hermoso - Spain’s all-time leading scorer - said the moment was a “natural gesture of affection”. “It was a totally spontaneous mutual gesture because of the immense joy that winning a World Cup brings,” the 31-year-old forward added.

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          1 year ago

          Yeah, might. It’s good good to question it even if that’s the case. Maybe next time someone will think twice about doing something similar if it’s not consensual.

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          1 year ago

          You realize adults can be pressured to say and do things they don’t want to do…right?

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            1 year ago

            I get the sentiment but fuck… every time I see this type of comment it makes it seem as though women are meek powerless individuals it’s like backhanded feminism

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              1 year ago

              The point is the gender doesn’t matter at all. The power dynamic is the core of the problem

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                1 year ago

                Okay fair enough, but stating it like that means that it’s impossible for anyone to fight against that? So once again people have no agency?

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                  1 year ago

                  Huh? Laws are created all the time to protect against this issue but the topic clearly isn’t fully solved

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          Well that’s kind of what the original person said and I gave another option. You don’t know. I don’t know. But saying they’re banging because she changed what she said isnt fair either.

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        1 year ago

        I don’t think either of you know how powerful a moment of elation like that can be. I think she gets it because she was there, living it too. Context, as always, is everything.

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          1 year ago

          We’re both talking about the fact that she changed her messaging about what happened, not the original action.

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      1 year ago

      Just for context, it has been revealed that the alleged statement of “natural gesture of affection, etc” is false and forged.

      It was released by the Federation, but she never said that.

      She has only said that she did not liked it and won’t make any more statements at the moment.

      Hermoso was pressured too in the trip back home to appear on the “apology” video from the president (spoiler: he does not really apologize and before that he insulted everybody that did not like the kiss on the radio) but she refused.

      The coach tried to persuade the family in the plane too, three times. They did not cave.

      Source in Spanish: https://www.relevo.com/futbol/mundial-femenino/rubiales-pidio-jenni-hermoso-defendiera-20230822035508-nt.html

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      Without relation to what Hermoso (or the RFEF PR team) says, it was not appropriate. Even if they are friends, Rubiales is there as La Liga president, not as a friend.

      What would have been the public reaction if Infantino would have kissed Hermoso?

      What would have been the public reaction if Rubiales would have kissed Queen Letizia?

      This guy is a shame to Spanish soccer, I am surprised the backslash is mainly in social media and the mainstream media is just banking with clickbait low level articles. A shame.

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      1 year ago

      Even if they are, it’s an extremely unprofessional move on his part at the very least.

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        I agree with that. “I was really excited” isn’t a reason to invade anyone’s space.