• Korhaka
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    5 hours ago

    Israel killing civilians at random probably isn’t going to help bring the average Palestinian to their side against Hamas. If they were being nice to the civilians they might actually be willing to help you.

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      This might come as a surprise but Israel wants to kill all Palestinians and steal their land. Not “beat Hamas”.

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        This is exactly the sentiment. In no reality would they stop once these objectives are met.

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      If only Hitler would’ve killed less civilians maybe the invaded countries would’ve been willing to help him with those awful resistance fighters.

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        He was given a trolley problem. Well, it was more of a train problem. Well, I don’t remember where the bottle neck was. But the guy couldn’t get the Jews fast enough to satisfy his evil ambition.

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        Well they would have probably assassinated fewer SS offices. Also some people did collaborate with them. Also, Hitler would probably not be viewed as negatively as he is if they didn’t do all those things.

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    If Israel and Russia can get away with it, then too the USA, and this is the ultimate goal: taking back the world to the days of “territorial conquests”.

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    Most of Palestinians are under the age of 18. Basically telling a bunch of kids he’s going to kill them.

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      This is a fact I try to bring up often… It’s a truly disturbing piece of information

      Also, they’re struggling to survive without enough supplies, they’re being cut off from the Internet and power in part so they can’t get their message to the world, and they couldn’t kick out Hamas if they wanted to - they have no organization or individual power to actually do that

      So it’s worth considering…who is this message for?

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      “Feels” is when you suspicious about something but you cannot tell why. This is objectively wrong because its state a genocidal intent as described by Law.

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      Because it’s a genocide extension that’s about to happen.

      His message is a clear declaration to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

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        Was what happened before also a genocide?

    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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      Because it is. Israel is a force of evil that won’t stop until it is stopped. It won’t stop in the middle east…same as Russia, USA, and the unspeakable.

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    Do you think there’s a 13 year old girl in Gaza who is writing a diary that will be widely read by children across the world 40-50 years from now?

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      Well, with the way things are going, it won’t be read in the U.S.A. It’ll be banned.

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      It’s 2025, the teenagers mostly document their lives on social media. Tent life guy from Gaza got killed but there are others.

      When this empire falls and the genocide history is able to be taught then yes I think some of these video records will be studied by children around the world.

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      Maybe, but the IDF will definitely burn anything they find, don’t want more records of their crimes where they can avoid it

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      Maybe, but it will probably be destroyed by carpet bombing before anyone sees it.

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        It’s not carpet bombing it Ai kill list. It indiscriminately just attacks targets, they’ve been training it the whole time. Palantir is the company

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          It’s probably not them. I didn’t see anything about Gaza genocide in the impact studies section.

          /s

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      The Germans occupied the Netherlands during WW2 and most (non Jewish) people could still live relevantly normal lives. Israel on the other hand is destroying everybody and everything in Gaza. They don’t even have a chance to write a diary.

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        Around 250,000 Dutchmen died in WW2. A substantial part of that came from the hunger winter in 1944 when the German army took the Dutch harvest. Dutch cities were first bombed by the Germans and afterwards by the allies, and many were in complete ruins. I am saying this not to downplay what Israel does to Palestina, but the idea that most Dutch people lived relatively “normal” lives during WW2 is ridiculous.

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          I meant normal in wartime. It wasn’t just a slaughter like Israel is doing. People could still have jobs and do stuff.

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        As a new biography Dutch Girl: Audrey Hepburn and World War II, excerpted exclusively in this week’s PEOPLE, reveals, it was her experiences during Germany’s five-year occupation of Holland during World War II that truly shaped her.

        While more has come out in recent years about her war experience, Robert Matzen’s book reveals harrowing new details about how a young Hepburn battled severe malnutrition, particularly during what was known as the “Hunger Winter” of 1944-45.

        Leading up to that brutally cold winter, as Germany tightened its grip on Holland, Hepburn and her family were often forced to live in the cellar for days and weeks at a time due to bombing overhead. And food became more and more scarce.

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        “the muslims” Okay now let’s see what it would looks like if I change this word by an other one starting with a J.

        Wait…?! Why I’m getting Déjà vu…ಠ_ಠ

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      Trump is continuing democrat policy on Gaza, so yes, just another obvious proof that they are two sides of the same coin.

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      Genocide Joe has already done 80% of the work.
      And there is zero reason to believe he would do anything to stop what they are doing now.
      He would blabber some words about having to watch out for civilian deaths while sending them more arms.
      His actions are 100% the same except he’s a hypocrite about it.

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          All these things you mention are just empty words.
          Like Genocide Joe or copmala’s emty words.
          What matters is actions and facts.
          And the complete support for genocide is a fact.
          So there is no difference, except as I said before, the dems being absolute hypocrites about it.

          Because of Shit happening in a country you probably didn’t give a shit about a year and a half ago

          You don’t know shit about me, so drop your BS claims out of vile hate and frustation from losing, which you people invariably project at true leftists, more than Trump bcs you’re all so mad some people have an actual consciense and humanity and couldn’t bare to be complicit by voting for either of the genocide factions.

          Besides, you’re having a clear case of the projections. Look at all the libs suddenly caring about evil orange man who is doing nothing different.
          Anyway, enough of this, you people will never learn anyway.
          A waste of time.

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        We show up in every Palestine post because we got constant verbal abuse from you people throughout the election cycle because we wanted to avoid the thing you just posted

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            I like how you saw me refer to “the thing you just posted,” which is about a genocide that Trump is helping to perpetrate, and you still can’t let go of the idea that this is all Genocide Joe’s fault

            And no, I don’t condone it. I just understand that the lesser of two evils is, in fact, preferable to the greater.

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              As a non american it disgust me how you make it about american politics. Genocide was happening before trump was in office, no amount of virtue signalling will change that. But go on keep thinking the whole world revolve around what happens in your shithole.

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                Do you not know that the thread you’re currently commenting in is specifically about an American president?

                This would mean that as a topic, American politics would be right within the wheelhouse of the discussion. And for the record, the conflict in Palestine was going on for decades before you ever knew wheee it was on a map.

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                  My point being that no matter who is the American president this genocide is happening. So quit bringing the discussion to you. And for the record it was going on for decades before i was even born, but i still don’t see how that would make it relevant to make it about americans and whoever is running their country.

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        Since you are changing the goal post I will bring it back to the original intent.

        You are a hypocrite that spews tankie ampliganda - Genocide Joe. You have used the suffering of Gaza for a political agenda.

        Fascist play with empathy, change goal posts, and gaslight.

        You are one.

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        And you show up in every political post saying dumb shit like “genocide Joe.”

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        Ooooh! I supposed that makes this timeline SO much better than how things would be under Kamala.

        Thanks for the perspective, bud!

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          You have no moral leg to stand on. Barely any noticeable difference between you and Trump/MAGA in how you view Palestinians as subhuman.

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          In the Kamala timeline, Israel keeps genociding the Palestinians while the democrats try to do a lot of mental gymnastics to try to paint it as a good thing

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            Soooo…. Is it that you only give a shit about Palestinians? Fuck all the other people trump is going to hurt, right?

            Because it’s SO fucking easy to focus in on one single issue to base your entire personality and political ideology on. But man…. It sucks major ass when you zoom out just a bit and see ALL the other people being hurt by the arrogant and entitled decisions made by people who don’t have a fucking clue how the real world works.

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              This is something we should keep in mind. Sure, it’s a bit sad that more than 50,000 Palestinians have been killed and Netenyahu says Tuesdays attacks that killed hundreds of women and children is “only the beginning”…

              But lets also think about the fact that eggs, gas and lumber prices have gone way up, and that those 9 trans college athletes in America cant play sports. Really puts it into perspective. I mean, who’s the real victim here?

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              And this is why democrats lost and will keep losing.

              They can’t be criticized or get called out for supporting a genocide.

              It is the bare minimum. They can’t even do that. They want unconditional support and loyalty, but won’t put any effort into accomplishing anything.

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              libs are fine with all imperialist wars and genocide as long as it doesn’t affect them, we know

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                  The context is your own selfish reasons and total lack of solidarity for anything outside of what affects you, even when they enable and support the most horrific acts of this century.

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      centrists are just happy that at no point did they have to reconsider their loving support for genocide.

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            …. Says the guy that somehow seems to think we’re better off with Trump than with Kamala.

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              We’re not better off under trump. I voted for harris.

              I get that you imagine all opposition to the genocide that gives your life meaning must come from trumpists, but some people actually find genocide support to be repulsive.

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                Wait, you voted for Harris?

                That’s right! You also support genocide! I forgot about that. Because all who support Harris are genocide supporters! I remember you saying that.

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                  You can vote for harris without approving of her genocide support. I mean, you didn’t. You support genocide under all circumstances.

                  You can also oppose genocide without being a trumper, which you also can’t seem to grasp.

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    so long as bibi, trump, and the puppet master putin and all of their respective ghouls are in charge, Im afraid every man woman and child in gaza is living on spent time.