Encrypted messaging app Signal has stopped working in China and is now only accessible by users of a virtual private network (VPN).
  • dragonX@lemmy.ml
    151·
    4 years ago

    Signal: refuses federation, refuses sign up without phone numbers
    Iran: blocks internet usage of signals, and blocks sms account verification
    China: Does the same
    Signal: surprised pikachu face (pika pika)

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      7·
      4 years ago

      US will also take Signal down in a second if they start seeing it as a threat. Centralized model is fundamentally fragile in this regard.

      • dragonX@lemmy.ml
        81·
        4 years ago

        Because until recently they didn’t achieve mass adoption.
        I bet many more countries will fellow suit (maybe Brazil, Turkey, the middle east, some African countries, Russia, … ) or try and throttle connection to push people to give-up!

          • dragonX@lemmy.ml
            5·
            4 years ago

            Not their fault, they can nevertheless make it sensorship resistant if they:
            1 - stopped working on gimmicks and started rolling out usernames
            2- Integrated a tor service for use when needed, or just route requests through Tor while Orbot takes care of the rest.

        • someone@lemmy.ml
          2·
          4 years ago

          Turkey doesn’t really care about this stuff. Even if they did it wouldn’t matter as even the shittiest VPN on the market can circumvent their ban.

            • someone@lemmy.ml
              3·
              4 years ago

              Yes. They don’t bother censoring stuff like Signal because over here nobody uses them. Even if they blocked it as I said even the shittiest vpn you can find on the Play Store can circumvent their page blocking. It’s not like the Great Firefall where you have to jump through numerous hoops to get around it. It is much easier to just keep people ignorant with a non functional education system that teaches nothing and promote blind patriotism by talking about the “good old days” when Turkey was the most powerful state in the world.

                • someone@lemmy.ml
                  2·
                  4 years ago

                  To my knowladge no they don’t. However for example if you Tweet stuff they don’t like for example they will kick your ass into the jail. Limited freedom of speech is pretty bad however Turkey also has more serious problems.

  • jelbana@lemmy.ml
    3·
    4 years ago

    Forgive me if this is poorly phrased, I’m very much a noob, but if they wanted to block XMPP, is it possible to identify all traffic to any XMPP server/from any XMPP client?

    • fidibus@lemmy.161.social
      6·
      4 years ago

      Yes, with deep packet inspection they can identify when a certain protocol is used and then block that traffic. Works the same way as blocking torrents.

      Edit: That is harder though than just blocking a couple of IPs that signal uses.

      • poVoq@lemmy.ml
        51·
        4 years ago

        True, but you can also try set up an xmpp server inside the country and sort of fly under the radar as country internal communication is usually less restricted. Of course hosting inside the country also puts the server in reach of the authorities, so better be careful not to collect any data they could get their hands on that way.

        • AlmaemberTheGreat@lemmy.ml
          2·
          4 years ago

          Tor or I2P would be my guess

          Edit: for Tor you will need to use meek-azure because it’s also blocked. idk about I2P, probably also blocked