he’s becoming self aware
title stolen from 13coveredinyou@twitter
been more than a week since I got to use this
ironically Mike from PA up there isn’t even MAGA. he’s a vocal pro-union progressive 😬
yea used to make one tailored to every group but turns out there are too many so just using this now
He’s been a Russian plant since he helped the Russian mob take over the construction racket in NYC from the Italians in the late 80s/early 90s
holy shit is the first reference of genocide in relation to russia since the start of the israel palestine war? Based.
What is the difference between a president beholden to a foreign adversary and one who just acts as though they are?
A pay check and some brain cells, both belonging to the president
So, Trump siding with Putin over the USA’s own intelligence agencies wasn’t a big enough red flag for these people?
Nothing is a big enough red flag, but the last thing we want to do is ridicule them when they are starting to see the truth of the matter.
Can’t melt those snowflakes.
We need to grow our ranks right now, new allies should be welcomed and embraced. Escaping a cult isn’t easy
(Also, this example might not be the best, isn’t the account a satirical one?)
No, unfortunately he’s serious
No redemption for these fucksticks. Brand them as traitors for life.
The time for that was the civil war. What’s happening now is the price you pay for not doing that.
The best time to plant a tree was 100 years ago. The next best time is now!
Now is more like the time for that giant greening project in Africa to repair the ecosystem… If the metaphor still tracks I’ll leave it at that.
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In all seriousness, we’ve got to make room for folks to return to sanity. When they have these “ah ha” moments we should take those opportunities to walk them back to reality.
All the “leopards/faces” jokes, while cathartic, aren’t really helping and encourage people to turn their backs on sanity for comfort.
Is there actual concrete evidence of any MAGAs “returning to sanity” over this stuff? As much as I’d love to be wrong, I’m skeptical that anyone still in the MAGA camp after the past 10 years could see this administration do any kind of heinous shit and not immediately dismiss it as false or rationalize it in a way that conforms to the party narrative. I think they’ve all been irreversibly brainwashed by Fox News and weaponized social media.
My brother gave up on Trump and voted for Harris last year. It can be done, but they have to choose to do it on their own, and antagonizing them just pushes them back to Trump even more.
The bigger problem is that MAGA now controls most of the media. For every MAGA that sees the light there’s some apathetic low-info genius who joins the cult.
We have to find a way to counter fascist media, and frankly I don’t know how we can do that when the moneyed interests are almost entirely, and unsurprisingly, on the side of fascism.
Is there any evidence mocking them and alienating them from our views helps? People leave cults after being in them for years, so it’s not like profound change cannot occur at any time.
I have pretty heavy judgement for people who have made it well into adulthood without bothering to engage with the reality of what they support.
However, always leave room for people who were raised in this crap. It takes serious time to deprogram and some people will do it at 16 and others might take until 26. I’m 31 and still deconstructing some of the repressive religious bullshit from my childhood even though I swing hard left politically (well past the Democratic Party) at 18. The brain doesn’t stop developing until 25, so at least give them some leeway until then to figure out what they really believe.
The guy in OP is a tankie, not MAGA. Though admittedly, they serve the same master from different directions.
That’s why “lib” is such a problematic term. It means literally anything based on who is speaking it.
I’ll always leave room for them, but I would still bet they will be fed their next set of talking points within the next 24 hours and be right back on board the crazy train.
That’s the real issue. If you have your fundamental beliefs shaken, you might reason through and come to a good, logical, moral conclusion. You might also do the cognitive dissonance thing and suppress the new revelation with bullshit. If, however, you have someone (faux news) right there with the cognitive dissonance spewing 24/7 and are in an echo chamber of others who are agreeing… well, it’s a good chance you’ll just accept the talking point and not question it.
Maybe the way to go about it is mocking them if they’re spouting the propaganda, and trying to help them in their reasoning if they’re questioning things.
Those people love that red flag hat.
Plenty of regular people are rightfully very distrustful of certain 3 letter agencies because of the histories of those agencies. That alone is far from a red flag. Combined with his positions on things like the BLM protests though…
Fash support fash. Trump does the same thing to Natanyahoo, Saudis, Kim Jong Un, et al…
I personally think Russia has something on him (and, indeed, many people in power), but to play devil’s advocate: we’ll never know if this is truly the case form him until the future if ever. There are all kinds of other reasons in line with narcissism and a number of other things/rewards that could explain it otherwise. Something something correlation causation.
This is your regularly scheduled reminder that the RNC got hacked in 2016 alongside the DNC, but the material was never released. That event coincides with the pivot Republicans made toward being pro-russia.
i appreciate the sentiment but this devil has plenty of advocates already
Honestly I dont care if they divine it through the splash their shit made against the bowl this morning as long as they come to the conclusion.
brb I need to go file a trademark request under the names “Shit Psychic” and “Poo Prophet”
I’m not sure you’ve really thought through what that economic endeavor would entail.
Honestly, with a name like that he’ll probably get hired by DOGE
You get partial credit for the right answer, even if you got there by accident.
I mean, Trump is also supporting a genocide in Palestine… So…
Yeah but conservatives don’t care about brown people, remember?
the irony is that Mike from PA is a vocal self-described progressive, not a conservative
he just has a really flawed/compromised understanding of international politics
He got them to agree to a cease fire and Israel had to withdraw from most of the land in the 1st 20hrs in office. What did Biden do?
You mean the ceasefire that Biden negotiated, that is about to fall apart under Trump?
Go move to Russia since you love it so much, traitor.
Lmao…
You think Biden was going to Bibi to agree to a peace plan…
We just needed more of him going around congress in violation of US and international law to supply weapons that publicly available information confirmed was being used for a genocide, right?
Four more years of Kamala “doing the same as Biden” and Bibi would have agreed, right?
I am glad I checked post history to see if a block was warranted. No one who legitimately believes that shit is ever gonna be worth listening to.
I’ll see you when you make your next account I guess, this one’s brand new so I probably got a couple weeks if you do them one by one.
Lol thats how much the media has brain washed you. Biden gave bombs to Israel to kill innocent Palestinians civilians. There was no cease fire with prisoners exchange until the 20hrs of trump presidency. Go to Ukraine and help them fight then if you are so concerned, brainwashed sits at home in confort while thousands of people die and doesnt even know the facts of the cease fire smh!
They literally didn’t take the deal on the table that was the only deal ever going to be on the table until after the election. Its the Biden peace deal. Its going to be the trump genocide
I didn’t think I’d see the day Mike admitted a mistake like that. Times are dire, folks…
like how long has it been since the first evidence of trump russian ties was public 😭 almost 40 years? the abject hatred of “libs” from the far far left is clearly blinding and i wish more people would see that
Truth be told, I don’t even know what an actual far left is. I always saw the left-right spectrum as woefully asymmetrical, because there’s a handful of ways of getting things right (as in being correct factually + morally) and a million ways of getting them wrong. The former generally aligns with “left”, and the latter with “right”.
I’ve seen some vile opinions from people supposedly on the left which were indistinguishable from the far right, and it starts like you said with this irrational need to avoid agreeing with liberals at all costs, which in time leads them down delusion avenue.
You’re describing the Horseshoe Theory. Personally, I’m a fan of the Political Compass.
I’m not a fan of Horseshoe Theory. It’s very handwavey and kind of implies centrism is the way to go, and I don’t agree with that at all. I think the status quo is crap and needs to be changed… quite a lot actually.
Anyway, I think there’s a brand of what’s generally called leftism that’s correct, and I think it’s somewhere in the libleft quadrant, if we’re to go by the political compass. And the further from that you go, the more “wrong” you start to get by giving more power to either the state (authleft), corporations (libright) or an unholy alliance of both (authright). Really, all of these to me are ways of being wrong by bestowing extreme unaccountable power to some institution or institutions, when the key should be accountability and avoiding the concentration of power (which includes wealth) into a few unelected unaccountable hands. Either of the three extremes, apart from the lower left, gives you some form of fascism, by which I mean things like: cult of personality, cult of work, making people’s well-being secondary to some abstract goals/principles like the state or meritocracy, that sort of stuff.
I don’t think that’s Horseshoe Theory though… is it?
Somebody might call it stethoscope theory, but I think that’s mostly a joke. Those other quadrants you’re talking about are not really on the left, they just pretend to be because it makes them seem more appealing. I mean, even the nazis pretended to be socialists. They just don’t get much purchase when they’re honest about what they want to do to poor people.
Now that I absolutely agree with. All try to emulate left principles to market their stuff, by which I mean they say “we get it and we care about you”.
Lol at “stethoscope theory” :)
and Trump has been in power 40 days lol. A little over a month. Not even 3% of his term.
Known as Mike from PA, Mike is a progressive Political Activist from Pennsylvania and is known as the Steelman of the left, Mike advocates for union labor and social democracy.
So… False flag Tweet?
Progressives aren’t libs, so nothing false flag about a progressive saying “the libs might have been right”.
The assumption that anyone who calls liberals “libs” is also pro-Trump is incorrect.
exactly lol it’s worse than a false flag he actually believes what he’s saying as a progressive
no he’s approaching this from an absurd leftist position, i actually thought more people would know who this guy was so sorry for the confusion
mike from PA is what a lot of people categorize as a tankie and was one of the people who was VERY vocal about not voting for harris under the pretext that trump might be better. so he does a lot of rhetoric that’s basically semi-MAGA advocacy
I’m not American so I don’t care either way. But it was my understanding that he voted against supporting the genocide of Palestinians. Kamala was still going to support the genocide.
They get to see how well that theory plays out. Going from someone wagging the finger and maybe holding back some weapons to someone saying point blank to ethnic cleanse the region and change it to “Trump Gaza”
yes that’s the reason. i do not judge most voters personally, but i do judge those who advocated against harris publicly and vocally when their understanding of international politics is this bad.
This is correct.
Missing from that summary is the fact that he’s a confirmed moron.
i literally have not seen one good piece of analysis from the man despite him ostensibly being “on my side.”
don’t put your voice leaders and influencers on pedestals, folks. not every pro-union organizer has correct opinions on the rest of the political landscape.
This guy is such a fucking chode.
Is this broken for anyone else?
some isps block catbox for some reason. sorry :( the alt text should be accurate tho
Never even heard of catbox. But there’s nothing showing.
Funny know if that’s my app failing it what. But heads up, whatever you post from this apparently crappy site might just be completely broken, fyi.
I can see it.
sorry dude. it’s not catbox that’s shitty it’s your ISP. get a VPN or something might help.
Yes
One thing I like about Mastodon over Lemmy is that images more often than not have alt text, so if the image doesn’t load or it’s too low quality, you can still get the gist.
my post has alt text too
Is this that weirdo that punched a couch?😂
yes 😭
Almost.
