Americans on Lemmy, and especially republicans/conservatives, how do you feel about your president and vice president after the press meeting with Zelenskyj?
Besides politics, I’m interested in what you think regarding the behaviour of the two most powerful men in the world, scolding another country’s leader on TV?
It’s such an remarkable happening that political commentators in my country just comment it with ‘I lack words’.
Tldr: Americans, mainly republicans, how do you feel about your presidents recent amateurish and somewhat unexpected behavior against Zelenskyj?
Edit: more exactly how do you feel about these two persons being the ultimate representative for your country against the rest of the world
I’m not a republican (are there any on here?), but as a communist, I saw this an the inevitable conclusion from the start. You can get people invested in whatever if the news is on about it, but fundamentally, you’re asking Americans to care about a conflict halfway around the globe that most people can’t even find on a map, for an indefinite period of time, after we just got out of another conflict with no exit strategy that lasted 20 years and left everyone worse off, at a time when domestic material conditions are in decline.
Afghanistan, everyone said we couldn’t leave because it meant Al Qaida would win and “if we don’t fight them over there, we’ll have to fight them over here,” but after 20 years of bloodshed we finally just went home and let the “bad guys” win and simply stopped thinking about it. Then the same people said the same thing about Ukraine. Maybe it could’ve dragged on as long as Afghanistan (and maybe it still will) but at the end of the day it’s not an existential threat and we have too many problems at home for people to really care, hard to say there should be a blank check to Ukraine when people are struggling over here. Obviously, on lemmy people still care because of high political engagement and the demographics represented here.
As for the specific interaction, anyone who views our politicians as representative of the people should already have a rock-bottom opinion of us, if it took til Trump (not only that, but his second term) for someone to realize American politicians are vile, then their opinion seems pretty uninformed and I can’t say I care much what they think.
The thing is that a lot of people have lost faith in the idea of “benevolent interventionism” without concern for pragmatism. One of Trump’s secrets to success has been that he’s been able to triangulate and appeal to people regardless of why they disagree with the idea, and liberals help him out with that by painting everyone who disagrees with it with the same brush. Honestly, after Afghanistan, I imagine pressing Zelensky on a time frame and an exit strategy will go over neutral at worst to the median voter, much as people on here might hate to hear it.