The west may be the “freest” part of the world, but I don’t buy into the “free world” propaganda bullshit. There is so much heirarchy and oppression in our “liberal democracies”, sure, it’s far better than the authoritarian regimes in other places, but IMO, “free world” is a stretch.
Now that doesn’t take away from the fact maintaining Ukraine’s “freer” political system over a neofacist imperialist Putin is an absolute necessity to fight for the right of Ukrainians and their right to self determination.
Free world means democracy, and democracy is not bullshit. Name any authoritarian regime that is even close to the freedom and quality of life of an average functioning or even a flawed democracy.
sure, it’s far better than the authoritarian regimes in other places
So you are buying into it anyway??? You sure changed your mind quickly.
Is it perfect? No.
Do we have something that is proven to be better? No.
The only thing better than democracy, is if the democracy can be improved.
Actually, I think your reasoning is part of the problem.
For decades the “it gets better” and “best of bad systems” narratives kind of worked, but if we’re being honest, our wealth and freedom was always bought by oppression somewhere else.
We don’t have serfs or slaves domestically anymore, we have them abroad in Vietnam or import them semi-legally for a few months or so.
We uphold international law, but only if it suits us. Our wars are all justified.
This hypocrisy is what’s fueling the current downfall. The economic disaster alienated the population, it’s not getting better for them, they’re worse off. Liberal democracy didn’t deliver.
Every petty dictator can invade somewhere else and can (rightly!) claim that we didn’t do anything about Iraq, or Kosovo, or Israel, or Yemen.
Maybe we used to be somewhat free, but we’re not anymore. And we’re actively destroying freedom elsewhere.
Former President of the free world. imo, that title now rests with Ursula von der Leyen
The west may be the “freest” part of the world, but I don’t buy into the “free world” propaganda bullshit. There is so much heirarchy and oppression in our “liberal democracies”, sure, it’s far better than the authoritarian regimes in other places, but IMO, “free world” is a stretch.
Now that doesn’t take away from the fact maintaining Ukraine’s “freer” political system over a neofacist imperialist Putin is an absolute necessity to fight for the right of Ukrainians and their right to self determination.
Free world means democracy, and democracy is not bullshit. Name any authoritarian regime that is even close to the freedom and quality of life of an average functioning or even a flawed democracy.
So you are buying into it anyway??? You sure changed your mind quickly.
Is it perfect? No.
Do we have something that is proven to be better? No.
The only thing better than democracy, is if the democracy can be improved.
Actually, I think your reasoning is part of the problem.
For decades the “it gets better” and “best of bad systems” narratives kind of worked, but if we’re being honest, our wealth and freedom was always bought by oppression somewhere else.
We don’t have serfs or slaves domestically anymore, we have them abroad in Vietnam or import them semi-legally for a few months or so.
We uphold international law, but only if it suits us. Our wars are all justified.
This hypocrisy is what’s fueling the current downfall. The economic disaster alienated the population, it’s not getting better for them, they’re worse off. Liberal democracy didn’t deliver.
Every petty dictator can invade somewhere else and can (rightly!) claim that we didn’t do anything about Iraq, or Kosovo, or Israel, or Yemen.
Maybe we used to be somewhat free, but we’re not anymore. And we’re actively destroying freedom elsewhere.