• BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    41 minutes ago

    I’ll hold my nose and vote Liberal if it means no Conservatives. I am a leftist and vote NDP in a very lefty city, but Jagmeet is not really doing a good job keeping the party afloat and it’s kind of in the weeds at the federal level. I think the only way Polievre will win at this point is if he promises to close the door to most immigration save for the highly skilled people we need, because wow do Canadians ever hate immigrants now. (Not that immigration doesn’t need reform but I’ve never seen such naked hatred of them in my whole life here). if he promised housing reform that would help him a lot, but he’ll never deliver on that. Also a lot of immigrants are more conservative and will probably vote for him, so he would cut off his nose to spite his face if he shut them out. I live next to a Sikh neighbourhood and they all seem to vote conservative.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      24 minutes ago

      I’ll hold my nose and vote Liberal if it means no Conservatives.

      Every. Damned. Time.

      The biggest thing the Reds offer is a blocking action against the blue.

      The best thing we had, and we’ll look back on in the future, is when Mr Singh patiently and calmly leveraged a minority red government in support of slowly providing for regular people.

      … and then he stopped doing it patiently or calmly and fell into a big pit of ego and special interest; but before that it was the most leverage he and his party had for improving regular people in a long time. I don’t expect the oranges to be in a similar position for years to come, unfortunately.

  • garbagebagel@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    3 hours ago

    While it gives me hope, I am still very genuinely worried that when the election is in full swing there will be extensive foreign meddling in the campaigns and media. Especially considering American oligarchs control mainstream social media exclusively now.

  • Chip_Rat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    8 hours ago

    I don’t know. Listening to PP on the radio the other day was, as usual, brain cell melting.

    “We are under attack from the south! They are putting America first! Therefore We need to"put Canada First!” (Not a direct quote, was a soundbite on the 4pm CBC news radio as best I recall it)

    Sir… When your idiot neighbours are in a democratic spiral to hell, maybe DON’T try and steal their slogans. I’m no political analyst but it’s …possible… the strategies they are using are at best ineffective.

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    9 hours ago

    Trump’s antics being good for North America was not on my bingo card. During negotiations with Mexico he also promised to reduce guns flowing into Mexico.

  • dogchops@friendica.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    10 hours ago

    @anachronist Hmmmm I’m just remembering that Justin Trudeau at least twice mentioned in his ‘tariffs’ speech how they might affect US Orange juice imports into Canada!

    That euphomism missed me at that time!

  • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    edit-2
    12 hours ago

    The only upside of Trump’s presidency is that it is a stark warning to other democracies around the world that it could very well happen to them also soon, and they’d better get their shit together before it does.

    Hungary should have been a warning sign, but the US is a lot more visible and a lot more frightening when it falls into this trap.

    • rbn
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      edit-2
      10 hours ago

      In Germany we’re having an election this month and I unfortunately don’t feel much of that spirit. The far right populists are more or less at an all time high and the conservatives are the strongest party in the race.

      • Swordgeek@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 hours ago

        Well, Germany has the same problem as the US: Musk.

        Elon has been pouring his support (and god knows how much illicit money) behind the AfD, to get fascists elected there. Same in Canada, same in the UK.

      • jimnashe@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        11 hours ago

        Additionally, the conservatives are openly and explicitly imitating Trump’s antics. “On my first day as chancellor I will…” - No you won’t, that’s not how it works here.

  • Default_Defect@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    12 hours ago

    Well I don’t know, have Canadians considered that their liberals aren’t perfect so they should fight tooth and nail to make sure the alt right gets elected instead?

    /s

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      8 hours ago

      Yes, they are. Recent polls have shown a strong swing towards the Liberals. They’re not in the lead yet, but the current trend is that direction, and that’s without them even having a selected leader yet. Polls asking about hypothetical elections where Carney is the leader actually put them in a dead heat with the Conservatives (and unlike the US, in Canada its the Liberals who have the vote distribution advantage, so ties go their way more often than not).

    • mPony@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      8 hours ago

      one shows a combined shift of about 13 percent. Polls are polls, they’re a dime a dozen. but the effect is immediately noticeable.

  • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    edit-2
    12 hours ago

    It definitely gives me hope that I didn’t have before but we can’t just ride off that alone

    • anachronist@midwest.socialOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      16 hours ago

      I was just amazed that The Donald might actually manage to work his magic and come up with a way for the liberals to win. An astonishingly remarkable performance from the grand master.