• CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      I’m reading that Trump actually caved by sending people in non-miltary planes and not chained up which was the just the existing agreement. The pro Trump media is just spinning it as ‘Colombia caved’ to make him look good.

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      Colombia sent their presidential plane to pick up citizens. The core issue here was the use of military airplanes and the treatment being dispensed to those in it, like being handcuffed.

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          I’m not sure where are you exactly aiming with your remark but I’m going to retort based on what I want to perceive from it.

          It’s better to have national airplanes pick up your nationals than to condone allow them to be transported in military aircrafts, handcuffed and who knows what else, like criminals.

          To my knowledge, Colombia refused military airplanes to land/cross their airspace, while at the same time calling out the social upturn being enacted by the new american cabinet. They denounced the attitude of a wannabe dictator, and in a very straightforward way. The rest of the world should be ashamed and banding together by now.

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            It’s better to refuse it entirely rather than capitulate. Which is what they did. And they are now complicit in Trump’s ethnic cleansing.

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              So you would rather have your kin handled like waste, than secure their safe return to their country?

              For what? Bragging rights? Bragging over blood? Would those be acceptable losses to further a cause?

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                I would rather have world leaders not be complicit in ethnic cleansing, but apparently you’re okay with it.

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                  Would you want your kin killed for the sake of making a vanity moral stance?

                  What I’m okay or not with we can discuss after you answer my question.

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                    Do you think he won’t just start killing anyway? Do you know how much these flights cost?

                    You don’t negotiate with Nazis because they don’t give a shit and will do whatever they want regardless.

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      Disappointing but understandable since the reports are saying other government officials, including his foreign secretary had to step in. I’m sure the argument that his personal reputation or issues with Trump destroying the Colombian economy was compelling enough

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      NYTimes headline says he already caved.

      How fast was that on a scale of zero to Liz Truss?