Summary
Efforts to impeach Donald Trump for a third time are intensifying as he begins his second term.
The non-partisan group Free Speech For People launched the “Impeach Trump. Again” campaign, citing constitutional violations, including his alleged role in the January 6 Capitol riots and breaches of the emoluments clause.
The group also accuses Trump of campaign finance violations, xenophobic rhetoric, and abuse of power.
However, impeachment remains unlikely with Republicans controlling Congress. Democrats may revisit impeachment if they regain control in 2026.
What the fuck is impeachment anymore?
Growing up and learning Nixon resigned because he was impeached and made him look terrible I thought it was career ending. Like they’ll drag you out of the white house career ending.
Now it just feels like telling a toddler “NO!” but with no consequence when they keep going anyway.
Come on. That shit is going nowhere.
“Surely, this time, impeachment will have consequences!”
Even if it passes, he will never be removed from office. There is no low that Trump can sink to where Republicans will not fall in lockstep with him. It’s pointless.
It gives Democrats something to campaign and fundraise on. Now you can FIGHT BACK by donating $25 to the Impeach Trump in 2025 Campaign.
Good. They should get rid of him by any means necessary.
“The non-partisan group”
HAHAHAHA!!! Fuck off!!
Liz Cheney and Kamala Harris holding hands forever
Who gives a shit if they’re partisan. The fashies call everything left of trump partisan
“It’s ok to lie about things! Truth can be bent as long as it serves the mindset that I have! All you got to do is label everything fascist! Then lying or presenting falsehoods is righteous!!!”
All they had to do was NOT present this organization as “non-partisan” and the article would have held credibility.
But who the fuck needs credibility?! My opinion is righteous and just!!
Ah yes i remember these exact news at this time during his first term
Nothing news from an empty source.
Impeachment stops corrupt individuals, not an entire party of fascists
Lol as proved last time, impeachment means absolutely nothing. It didn’t stop the last corrupt individual, in fact he was just reelected and is as corrupt, if not more, than before.
It’s certainly doomed, but democrats already get paid to be there so why not use every tool in the book? Time Congress is arguing about impeachment is time they’re not implementing fascist policies
Exactly. The corrupt individual couldn’t be stopped because theres an entire corrupted party that supports the corrupt individual.
Yeah, unless the Senate finds him guilty, which they didn’t last time and won’t likely this time, if won’t stop him.
the american democracy would be pretty good, if it wasn’t for parties… now it’s a never ending competition between two conspiracies
Lol its not the “parties”
The constitution never said anything about the two-party system.
That was an emergent property of FPTP voting system
TLDR: Fuck the FPTP system
And it’s not like we didn’t fuckin’ see it coming, either. Washington, with one foot out the door: “Don’t deify me, don’t form political parties.”
So, guess what else nobody listed to him about?
No GOP backing, so this is meaningless theater.
Exactly. He’s been impeached twice and nothing happened. He should have been barred from office years ago. The entire process is nothing but political theatre for donors.
How many times did the magahats offer impeachment articles for Biden? The theater isn’t meant to be successful, but just a constant buzz for voters.
Impeachment is irrelevant anymore
It’s a process. It is like filing charges against someone, and then the Senate holds the trial. The Senate found him not guilty. So there were no consequences.
FFS no. All it did the last two times was help him, because impeachment is basically impossible and he’s going to “win”.
Jesus Christ… NO.
Same as the last two times, it’s a wasted effort without the votes in the Senate. If you can’t remove him, don’t bother. Focus on winning back the House and Senate in 2026.
Time and time again, this image remains relevant
Without the ACA I would’ve entered life-altering levels of debt (or died?) so I have a slightly more favorable view of democrats than this. Occasionally they move the needle, even if I find them incredibly frustrating.
They absolutely can do good things, I was mostly referring to the fact that they knew that what is happening would happen and yet put in zero protections to protect Americans from literal fascism, instead they used fear mongering as a campaign tactic.
I mean that’s precisely why there was never a serious effort to codify Roe. It was too useful as a campaign line. And then it wasn’t.
used into fear monger
I hate it when people use into fear monger .
Fok >.< fixed. Thanks!
ACA eas what the Republicans were pushing for 20 years ago. Obamacare was straight up a copy of Mitt Romney’s healthcare plan in Massachusetts, jjst at the federal level.
Yes we all know that and it doesn’t change my relationship with it
Did you know that when aragorn kicked the helmet, he broke his toe, and the yelling in the movie was actually his cries of pain they kept to enhance the scene?
I’m certainly glad the ACA helped you, and it certainly did address some major issues, but it was also massive wealth transfer to the top, and it had led directly into the financialization of healthcare that’s currently destroying the system. Doctors are leaving medicine in droves and regularly takes six months or more to get an appointment with many specialties.
It was a bandaid on a festering wound of already financialized Healthcare, it’s just continued to get worse as expected because the ACA was a half ass attempt at actually brining Healthcare to the people.
There was no large scale takeover of healthcare by Wall Street. There is a big difference between commercialization and financialization. By pumping billions into health are and allowing investors to siphon those billions right back out again, the ACA created a feeding frenzy. I’m old enough to remember a healthcare system that was largely owned and managed by medical professionals, not hedge funds and private equity.
Then, of course, there are the larger impacts of income inequality that this exacerbated. The ACA was one of many things done by both Republicans and Democrats that turned this country into a Russian style oligarchy.
It’s not incidental that the design for the ACA came from the same right wing think tank that produced project 2025. It’s all part of the same project.
It’s not incidental that the design for the ACA came from the same right wing think tank that produced project 2025. It’s all part of the same project.
Actually, no. The design for the ACA was actually based on the healthcare reforms put in place by Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts, which were considered very popular and successful. The problem is that when they tried to make it go national, Republicans in general didn’t want to give Obama a win, so they gutted it as much as possible.
Romneycare was pretty god damned good, even after the gutting it’s taken over the years. If the ACA was built on what Romneycare originally was, we’d probably be in much better shape than we’re in now.
You sure about that?. What do you think Romneycare was based on? Romneycare had many of the same issues. It really doesn’t help the case that Obamacare’s implementation was worse.
And this wouldn’t have happened with private insurance without ACA because…?
It probably would have happened, but the ACA was like throwing gas on a fire or chumming for sharks. The individual mandate concept was specifically designed to derail actual reforms and accelerate wealth aggregation, and that’s exactly what it did.
Do you think the Heritage Foundation was actually concerned about access to quality healthcare for everyone? We still spend even more person on healthcare than anywhere else on the planet, yet we still have 26 million Americans with no healthcare plan.
Amen Kent.
One of the things I hate about yes minister is how it still applies 40 years later. Like f%@$!
Ya I always laugh when people talk about how accurately the Simpsons predicts things. It’s like, no, politics is just that fucking cyclical and the writers were smart.
I say were because it’s not what it used to be.
Though I’d argue the Ds can govern
They do ok. But look at what’s going on with gaza. They definitely arent batting 100. Plus all the governing they sometimes do must equally benefit the wealthy class or it won’t happen.
Sure, but on the second point the GOP is so horrendous
They could not BE more wrong.
They could have prevented this from happening and chose to use the fear of fascism as a campaign tactic instead of putting in any protections. I’d say that’s a pretty big failure to govern.
That’s the idea. Impeach him after 26. It’s in the article
Impeachment is the check against his power. It would be better to convict, but the democrats need to make the argument and convince the people that Trump should be held accountable. Get Republicans in the Senate and House on record supporting Trump’s crimes, and then beat them in the midterm elections.
Impeachment is how you win those elections. Rolling over and showing your belly is why Democrats keep losing before the fight begins.
After January 6 they got several Republicans on the record for impeachment and conviction. All it did was get almost all the ones who did the right thing primaried out, all of which have been replaced by MAGA faithfuls. Those who voted against were praised for it and given more power.
I mean, in a better world, we would have competent progressives who know how to run on an anti-fascist campaign. That we’re losing the fight is not a reason to stop fighting. It’s a reason to reevaluate our tactics and fight harder.
There are competent progressives who know how to run on an anti-fascist campaign. The Democratic Party stands in their way.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, because I know they exist, but they could be running the party.
In this moment impeachment is a waste of time. They would be better served (1) governing super well in places they are in charge (to demonstrate they are the better option - something that is inconsistent today); (2) figuring out why people are voting for Trump; (3) developing strong messaging and strategy to win races top to bottom of the ballot. I’ve been unimpressed with their ability to both run and govern recently (with some exceptions here and there). Maybe it is catching up with them.
In this moment impeachment is a waste of time.
Any time he’s focusing on that is time he’s not actively fucking shit up. Being obstructionist is what’s gotten the Republicans to the place they are now.
And he doesn’t get convicted and he’ll campaign on how nasty the Dems are. An impeachment without conviction is a “win”.
And that’s a stupid ass argument. If the Democrats can’t win that debate, then we need better candidates.
winning what? debates? you mean reasoning with a pigeon?
Are you new? You win by convincing people that you’re right and they should vote for you. You can’t do that if you never make the argument because it’s too hard to win.
I think impeachment makes him stronger, it gives him whining, hysterical liberals to point at. Oppose and resist him, but just by calling out his BS, not trying to give him a traffic ticket and failing.
the democrats need to make the argument and convince the people that Trump should be held accountable
The people don’t vote on impeachment. Convincing them won’t help.
Get Republicans in the Senate and House on record supporting Trump’s crimes, and then beat them in the midterm elections.
Oh you sweet summer child.
Ah, but this is the least effective way for Democrats to show their donors that they’re still “fighting” for them. The only thing that matters now is manufacturing some talking point to get more donations in 2026.
This is actually counterproductive, the more times we do it when it’s guaranteed to lose, the less likely it is to work.
The GOP had the votes to impeach biden. They didn’t because even they know it’s a stinker.
Unfortunately this is just a sign of how bad the US has gotten.
There have been impeachment attempts on Clinton, W Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. Impeachment was supposed to be used to stop a president acting illegally but its just become another political weapon in the US capitol.
The US system is so unbelievably broken. It entirely depends on bipartisan support to get things done but things are now too polarised to function and the electoral system prevents 3rd parties access at any level.
The two parties have destroyed democracy. It could be fixed but it would need to start at the state levels with 3rd parties coming in and rebuilding the electoral system. But the 2 parties have even gerrymandered the constituencies so only the two parties can win.
Even other countries with first past the post systems have other viable political parties - look at the UK, Australia and Canada. Fptp is flawed and breed an replacing but the US version is next level for locking in the status quo.
There actually was no impeachment attempt on W. Bush, Pelosi intentionally took it off the table.
Similarly there were no serious attempts on Obama or Biden either. Threats, definitely. Obama specifically was threatened with impeachment over military action in Libya without congressional approval, but then that became “WhY DiDn’t yOu dO AnYtHiNg aBoUt bEnGhAzI?”
It’s not “the two parties”. The Republicans impeachment efforts have universally been partisan witch hunts - even the successful one against Clinton. (And I am no fan of Clinton. He should have been ostracized by the Democrats a long time ago). W Bush and Trump both committed crimes worthy of removal from office. It’s not the same at all.
I don’t think they have been witch hunts, per se; republicans don’t seek impeachment for things they rightly could because, well, they like the illegal things presidents do. They like when presidents don’t enforce the law or drag usninto wars or fund foreign enemies and topple governments. Democrats too. If rightful impeachment isn’t on the table, what else can it be but a political weapon?
Oh, you feel like it hasn’t? Well I feel like it has . Fuck your feeling, right repub?
Alright, pal. I don’t know what to tell you. Ronald Reagan was a criminal, both Bushes are criminals, Clinton is a criminal, Obama is a criminal, and Biden is a criminal. If there was a will to impeach for something real, it could happen.
But there are criminals and there are criminals. Running a disinformation campaign to justify invading a sovereign country is worthy of removal from office. Withholding aid from an ally that was specifically allocated by Congress in a scheme to try and create sort on a political opponent is worthy of removal from office. Lying about a blowjob isn’t.
There is no evidence whatsoever that Biden is a “criminal” beyond a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit that never amounted to anything. The Republican House was desperate to impeach Biden, and could never get it off the ground.
The Clintons are sketchy as fuck, but clearly know how to keep their scamming within the confines of the law. The same goes for Obama to a lesser degree.
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When Biden tried to just pause bomb shipments to Israel, the House passed legislation to force him to resume. If Biden pushed Israel enough, it’s likely Congress would override him and take away whatever leverage he had over the situation. I think Biden’s handling of Gaza was pathetic, but not that it rises to the level of criminality.
If Obama is a war criminal, then Carter is too. He armed and and enabled a genocide in Indonesia. A realistic take on foreign policy should recognize that it’s going to be a dirty business, no matter who is in the Whitehouse.
If real crimes aren’t impeachable, the only thing left is made up bullshit.
To provide an actual counterargument: That’s not necessarily true. Just because there is a category of crimes that politicians tend to ignore for impeachment purposes, that doesn’t mean there aren’t also real crimes that would trigger impeachment.
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Yes. Both sides can be bad, with one being clearly worse.
Problem is, “we look forward, not backward”
Just an FYI, Australia doesn’t have first past the post, rather we have preferential and compulsory voting. We’re quite proud of it. An independent organisation creates voting districts which means gerrymandering is minimised
That sounds civilized and reasonable
I fear in the next US election people will vote with their guns
Thanks, was going to say the same, the AEC deserves a similar respect as the NHS for this reason. A truly apolitical electory body.
Gotta pretend they are doing something
Who exactly? Who is pretending they are doing something?? Is it democrats you’re accusing of pretending to do something?
How about maybe you try reading the article next time instead of chiming in with edgy nonsense.
It is a non partisan group called Free Speech for People. You’d have known that had you read the 1st paragraph of the article.
Oh. And while we’re on the subject of pretending… even if you were right and it is the democrats pretending- at least they pretended to do something. Because so many of you flat out admittedly did nothing.
And look what that got us.
